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Wiki formatting in website field
by Kake L Pugh 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

(Note: This email is long but there's an important question for guide admins in the middle.) An issue that came up today while we were going through the tickets is that at the moment, people can (and do) put wiki formatting into the "website" field on the edit form, specifically the square bracket external link format. We're undecided about whether this should be supported or not, so I volunteered to post to the list and ask for opinions. Arguments for continuing to support it: * Existing guides may already have a substantial amount of website data in this format, and if we stop supporting it then the admins will have to go through and change it all. * It gives people an easy way to specify some text to be used as the link, in the cases where the URL is long. Arguments against: * It's wrong, semantically. That piece of metadata should contain a URL, not a snippet of wikitext. * It means we have to munge the data every time we want to emit website metadata (e.g. in RDF). Dom would definitely like to stop supporting this, and I mostly agree with him. In order to do this we need two things. First of all, we need to know if this would cause a substantial amount of hassle for people. I know that RGL makes heavy use of the square bracket syntax in the website field, but I'm OK with sorting that out. Will this be an issue for anyone else? We'd also need an alternative way of deciding on the link text for long URLs. Possibilities: * Another metadata field (downside: the edit form is already pretty full) * Fixed text defined by us, e.g. "Home page of this place" (downside: not sure it's possible to come up with something suitable that everyone will like) * Some method of generating link text from the URL. Dom suggested just using the domain name, so e.g. http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/AMR.html would display as Website: [www.nationalrail.co.uk] or maybe Website: [nationalrail.co.uk] Thoughts? Kake

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Fwd: [openguides-commits] r1059 - in trunk: . lib/OpenGuides t templates
by Earle Martin 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

Hola, Just saw this go through: --- Begin quote --- Author: ilmari Date: 2007-06-10 16:31:06 +0100 (Sun, 10 Jun 2007) New Revision: 1059 Modified: trunk/Changes trunk/lib/OpenGuides/RDF.pm trunk/t/21_rdf.t trunk/templates/node_rdf.tt Log: Include <os:map_link> in node RDF (fixes #26) --- End quote --- Sorry, I'm afraid that'll have to be reverted in its entirety, as it's incorrect. The Ordnance Survey vocabulary doesn't include a map_link property, and won't do so in the future; it's not within its remit. On the other hand I'm pleased to report that I'm partway through the first draft version of a "GeoWiki" vocabulary which will encapsulate *all* the properties we currently use. Suggestions welcome - see http://wikirdf.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GeoWikiWorkshop . Thanks, Earle. -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.org/net/earlemartin/

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Re: [OGDev] [openguides-commits] r1053 - trunk/templates
by Dominic Hargreaves 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 02:50:29AM +0100, svnadmin(a)urchin.earth.li wrote: > Author: ilmari > Date: 2007-06-10 02:50:29 +0100 (Sun, 10 Jun 2007) > New Revision: 1053 > > Modified: > trunk/templates/edit_form.tt > trunk/templates/missing_metadata.tt > trunk/templates/moderate_confirm.tt > trunk/templates/preferences.tt > Log: > Sync up up label tags and form element id attributes (closes #217) Is this a CSS spec change? ie does README.CSS and UPGRADING need to be updated? Dominic. > Modified: trunk/templates/edit_form.tt > =================================================================== > --- trunk/templates/edit_form.tt 2007-06-09 21:54:06 UTC (rev 1052) > +++ trunk/templates/edit_form.tt 2007-06-10 01:50:29 UTC (rev 1053) > @@ -47,7 +47,7 @@ > <legend>Main information</legend> > > <div class="edit_form_group" id="content_group"> > - <label for="content"> > + <label for="content_textarea"> > [% IF conflict %] > Current content: > [% ELSE %] > > Modified: trunk/templates/missing_metadata.tt > =================================================================== > --- trunk/templates/missing_metadata.tt 2007-06-09 21:54:06 UTC (rev 1052) > +++ trunk/templates/missing_metadata.tt 2007-06-10 01:50:29 UTC (rev 1053) > @@ -31,17 +31,17 @@ > </div> > <div> > <label for="metadata_value">Metadata Value:</label> > - <input name="metadata_value" value="[% metadata_value %]" /> > + <input name="metadata_value" id="metadata_value" value="[% metadata_value %]" /> >       > <i>Optional, eg 'pub' when metadata value is Category</i> > </div> > <div> > <label for="exclude_locales">Exclude Locales:</label> > - <input type="checkbox" name="exclude_locales" [% IF exclude_locales %]checked="true"[% END %] /> > + <input type="checkbox" name="exclude_locales" id="exclude_locales" [% IF exclude_locales %]checked="true"[% END %] /> > </div> > <div> > <label for="exclude_categories">Exclude Categories:</label> > - <input type="checkbox" name="exclude_categories" [% IF exclude_categories %]checked="true"[% END %] /> > + <input type="checkbox" name="exclude_categories" id="exclude_categories" [% IF exclude_categories %]checked="true"[% END %] /> > </div> > <div> > <input type="submit" value="Find Nodes" /> > > Modified: trunk/templates/moderate_confirm.tt > =================================================================== > --- trunk/templates/moderate_confirm.tt 2007-06-09 21:54:06 UTC (rev 1052) > +++ trunk/templates/moderate_confirm.tt 2007-06-10 01:50:29 UTC (rev 1053) > @@ -24,13 +24,13 @@ > <input type="hidden" name="id" value="[% node_param %]" /> > [% IF moderation_action == 'set_moderation' %] > <label for="moderation_flag">Moderation Required:</label> > - <input type="checkbox" name="moderation_flag" [% IF moderation_flag %]checked="yes"[% END %] /> > + <input type="checkbox" name="moderation_flag" id="moderation_flag" [% IF moderation_flag %]checked="yes"[% END %] /> > <br /> > [% ELSE %] > <input type="hidden" name="version" value="[% version %]" /> > [% END %] > - <strong>Password:</strong> > - <input type="password" name="password" /> > + <strong><label for="password">Password:</label></strong> > + <input type="password" name="password" id="password" /> > <input type="submit" value="Go!" /> > </form> > > > Modified: trunk/templates/preferences.tt > =================================================================== > --- trunk/templates/preferences.tt 2007-06-09 21:54:06 UTC (rev 1052) > +++ trunk/templates/preferences.tt 2007-06-10 01:50:29 UTC (rev 1053) > @@ -79,7 +79,7 @@ > > <p> > <label for="default_edit_type">Default edit type:</label> > - <select name="default_edit_type"> > + <select name="default_edit_type" id="default_edit_type"> > [% IF default_edit_type == 'normal' %] > <option value="normal" selected="1">Normal edit</option> > <option value="tidying">Minor tidying</option> > @@ -92,7 +92,7 @@ > > <p> > <label for="cookie_expires">Preferences expire:</label> > - <select name="cookie_expires"> > + <select name="cookie_expires" id="cookie_expires"> > [% IF cookie_expires == 'never' %] > <option value="month">in one month</option> > <option value="year">in one year</option> > > > _______________________________________________ > openguides-commits mailing list > openguides-commits(a)lists.urchin.earth.li > http://urchin.earth.li/mailman/listinfo/openguides-commits -- Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/ PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email)

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Support for spam detection
by Kake L Pugh 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

Hello. Following a discussion on #openguides, I've added hooks for spam detection. The way it works is that you specify the name of a local module in your wiki.conf, and OpenGuides will check all edits against this module before agreeing to commit them. The module should provide a method called "looks_like_spam", which will be passed the content and metadata of the edit, and should return true (it's spam) or false (it's not). An example: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- package OpenGuides::Local::KakeSpamDetector; use strict; sub looks_like_spam { my ( $class, %args ) = @_; if ( $args{content} =~ /kitten/i ) { return 1; } } ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Obviously you'll want a more serious check in there :) The neat thing about doing it like this is that your spam detector module can do _anything_ you like, including, for example, logging. Comments? Kake

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Bermondsey Hackfest - 9th/10th June 2007
by Kake L Pugh 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

I am pleased to announce that there will be an OpenGuides hackfest in Bermondsey, London, on the weekend of 9th-10th June 2007. In brief: When: noon-10pm Saturday 9th June, noon-5pm Sunday 10th June Where: Kake/Bob/doop house, near Bermondsey station What: Bug triage and bug fixing Who: Programmers and testers The focus of the hackfest will be bug triage and bug fixing. Everyone who can contribute is welcome, both programmers and testers. The venue is Kake's and Bob's and doop's house, a couple of minutes' walk from Bermondsey station, which is one stop east along the Jubilee line from London Bridge station. Please contact me at kake(a)earth.li if you don't already know the address - for those with livejournal accounts there's a friends-locked post with address and directions at http://nou.livejournal.com/67884.html We'll start on the Saturday around noon with introductions and an initial discussion (I'll provide lunch; let me know if you have a dietary restriction that isn't covered by "vegan"). We'll continue until people are tired (no later than 10pm), probably ordering some form of takeaway for dinner. We'll reconvene on Sunday, again at noon, but probably knock off a bit earlier, say 5pm-6pm. Please feel free to come to some or all of this. Any form of structure will be decided as we go along. Kake

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RDF Workshop on dev wiki to move
by Earle Martin 29 May '07

29 May '07

Hey all, I'm now curating the new site WikiRDF.org. I'm planning to move the contents of our wiki page "RDF Workshop" ( http://dev.openguides.org/cgi-bin/trac.fcgi/wiki/RDF%20Workshop) to the wiki on the new site in order to widen up the discussion and hopefully get a new vocab up and running quickly. I'm sure this won't pose any problem for all of you, but I thought it'd be polite to post here first before doing the move. Cheers, Earle. -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.org/net/earlemartin/

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Re: [OGDev] [domm@cpan.org: YAPC::Europe Hackathon]
by IvorW 25 May '07

25 May '07

> -----Original Message----- > From: openguides-dev-bounces(a)lists.openguides.org > [mailto:openguides-dev-bounces@lists.openguides.org]On Behalf > Of Kake L > Pugh > Sent: 25 May 2007 09:20 > To: openguides-dev(a)lists.openguides.org > Subject: [OGDev] [domm(a)cpan.org: YAPC::Europe Hackathon] > > > We have the YAPC hackathon! > > Yay! Well cool! > So who's coming to it? ME ME ME! Especially as I've proposed a talk on OpenGuides at the conference. Ivor.

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Upgrading Birmingham OpenGuides
by Barbie 25 May '07

25 May '07

Hi folks, After several months of struggling with a painful server, Birmingham Perl Mongers have now bought hosting for our various projects. I've started setting up the box, and now would seem to be a good time to upgrade OpenGuides too. However, the current installation is running 0.49 and as I'd like to use the latest OG code, 0.60. Is there a conversion script to migrate the database between the two? It's currently running under postgresql, and can remain so, or move to MySQL if anyone has a conversion script for that. Following up Kake's post about a SpamDetection module. This closely follows how things work on the current Birmingham site, with the hacked version of the code I made. However, rather than one SpamDetection module, I'd like to see the ability to have several, so that it allows people to plug'n'play with a variety of detection modules. Much in the same way that most email spam engines work. In addition the Birmingham OpenGuides has a rollback feature, which allows an admin to rollback to a specific version, rather than deleting nodes one by one. I haven't seen this as a feature, is it something that would be useful? I don't have the time to patch anything right now, but I could look at this during July. And finally, how painful is the template and CSS migration likely to be? There looks to be a lot of new templates in the latest release! Cheers, Barbie. -- Birmingham Perl Mongers - http://birmingham.pm.org Miss Barbell Productions - http://www.missbarbell.co.uk

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[domm@cpan.org: YAPC::Europe Hackathon]
by Kake L Pugh 25 May '07

25 May '07

We have the YAPC hackathon! Yay! So who's coming to it? Kake ----- Forwarded message from Thomas Klausner <domm(a)cpan.org> ----- From: Thomas Klausner <domm(a)cpan.org> Cc: apw-orga(a)dmail.zsi.at Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 10:01:55 +0200 To: kake(a)earth.li Subject: YAPC::Europe Hackathon Hi! We just finished voting on all of the hackathon proposals for YAPC::Europe, and we're happy to inform you that your proposal OpenGuides was accepted. We now need your confirmation that you will come to Vienna and do the hackathon. Please send a short acknowledgement to vienna2007(a)yapceurope.org until Sunday, 27th May, 12:00 (midday) If we do not get your acknowledgement until then, we will choose one of the rejected hackathon proposals instead! To get the travel and accomodation sponsoring (500 Euros) you will need to first pay by yourself and then issue an invoice directly to the sponsor, providing copies of your tickets/bills. We will help of course help you to set the invoice etc. Looking forward to see you in Vienna, Thomas Klausner -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.plix.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-g&&print$_.$/} ----- End forwarded message -----

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Outcomes of RoCoCoCamp
by Earle Martin 23 May '07

23 May '07

Hello all, After some tremendously productive sessions, the legacy of this weekend's conference that affects OpenGuides is that Evan Prodromou of Wikitravel and I will be working together to build a common geodata format for wikis (old news; but we have a much better idea of what's happening now, and we're going to hammer it out very soon, very quickly). This is going to live at a new site, WikiRDF.org, which will also be the new home for both my own Wiki Profile Vocabulary (which is going to feature as a component of a new search engine, Wixee.com - stay tuned for details), and the existing ModWiki specification for RSS 1.0 output for wikis (currently hosted on MeatballWiki). In other news, today I learnt of a site called WikiSpot.org, which is aiming to be a directory of city-wikis. Perhaps our various admins would like to add details for their Guides? Cheers, Earle. -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.org/net/earlemartin/

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