OpenGuides-Dev September 2006

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by Paul Makepeace

Hi, I don't follow OG development but as host operator a few things are coming up. The machine's load is gradually climbing over time and some of that is OG. Despite a relatively low hit rate on OG it is consuming quite a bit of resource. If OG started taking off it would take the machine down. First up: index.cgi requires 0.35s to perform a `perl -c` syntax check. Any thoughts on putting OG on a mod_perl server? I have mod_perl running here of course and we'd need to coordinate some apache.conf stuff. Second: the supersearch.cgi gulps down CPU, often for seconds at a time. It is a frequent resident of `top` output. This isn't really acceptable. I'm going to request this feature be turned off unless an effective optimisation plan or some other way to reduce its impact here is constructed pretty soon. Sorry about this but it's encroaching on others. Third: I wonder if there's some way to instruct robots not to spider parts of your wiki. This ought to speak for itself: $ grep crawl /var/log/apache/london.openguides.org-access.log | grep 'action=edit' | wc -l 8242 $ Finally: I posted about a DoS and was wondering what the status of a solution was. http://openguides.org/mail/openguides-dev/2004-October/000542.html Cheers, Paul (any overbearing tone unintentional ;-) -- Paul Makepeace .............................. http://paulm.com/inchoate/ "If my elbow was straight, then I'll show oyu mine!" -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/

16 years, 3 months

Date confirmed for Oxford meetup

by Dominic Hargreaves

As per http://dev.openguides.org/wiki/OxfordMeetup2006 I've set the date as 8th-10th December. Likely schedule: * Pubmeet/dinner on Friday evening to socialise and discuss some general issues * All-day hackfest and further detailed discussion on Saturday Thanks to all those who responded with dates; it would be useful if you (and, of course, anyone else who can make it) could add their name to that list[0]. More details will be provided nearer the time of course; meanwhile, if anyone has any ideas for a good format, do say! Cheers, Dominic. [0] You'll need to register for an account on the wiki to do this; details are at http://dev.openguides.org/wiki/AboutThisTracInstall -- Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/ PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email)

16 years, 10 months

OpenGuides 0.57 released

by Dominic Hargreaves

A few days ago I released 0.57 to CPAN and as a Debian package. This includes, amongst other things, initial support for moderated notes, as one tool against spammers, along with an associated admin interface (wiki.cgi?action=admin). They are both still being developed so will become easier to use in future. One thing to note is that currently nodes need to be set for moderation individually; in future, the option to require all notes to be moderated will be available. Another minor issue with this release is that an extra navigation section was added defaulting to on, inappropriately. This has been fixed in SVN but until you have updated your stylesheets you may wish to add the following to your config files: enable_common_categories = 0 enable_common_locales = 0 Again, this new feature is still in development. Full changelog follows: 0.57 12 September 2006 New interfaces: * Admin interface. * Show nodes missing metadata. * Moderate edits (based on Wiki::Toolkit moderation). NOTE: these functions should be considered unstable, and may change over future releases. Lots more Atom and RSS feeds, including for searching. Four new config file options: moderation_requires_password, enable_node_image, enable_common_categories, enable_common_locales Search::InvertedIndex support is deprecated as of this release. Please upgrade to Plucene if you are still using it. Tidy up some template bits Cheers, Dominic. -- Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/ PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email)

16 years, 11 months

Hackfest/pub meet in Oxford

by Dominic Hargreaves

I've been talking about having a meetup in Oxford for a while, and we never managed the one in London a while ago, so here goes. I'm aiming to hold it before Christmas. There are several of us in Oxford who I hope can make it, and I know that Tom and Mark from Milton Keynes have expressed an interest. Oxford is 1h on the train from London Paddington and 90 minutes by bus from Marble Arch, so I hope that some of the London crowd will be able to make it. Of course, all are welcome, however far away you came from :) I would like to suggest that we hold both a hackfest and a pubmeet. Initially I would like to know how many people would like to come to which parts of this, and when they can come, and venues and other details can be sorted out later. I expect that the event may span multiple days. Please could you, therefore, tell that lovely little page http://www.meetomatic.com/respond.asp?id=FBN07B all about your preferred dates, and put any other relevant comments into the comment box (including whether, if you would like to attend more than one day, if you require any accommodation - as I may be able to arrange crash space). It would also be useful to know if you have a laptop with wireless you would bring or would need a computer to work on for the hackfest. The comments box is quite small, so free to email me these details instead. Sorry for the vagueness of this email - I've no real idea how many people would be interested in which parts, so once I've had some responses I will be able to post more details and dates. One thing worth pointing out is that you don't need to be a coder to attend the hackfest part of things - if you have any sort of interest in OpenGuides you're more than welcome. Cheers, Dominic. -- Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/ PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email)

17 years

Creating Open Guides for Jakarta, Indonesia

by big one

Hello Based on suggestion from Wikitravel, I plan to create a comprehensive guide to places in Jakarta, Indonesia. Is this idea possible? Thank you. _____________________________________________________________ = You want FREE web-based email ? = You want your own @qon.lao.net address?? = Then you want LaoNet's WebMail ! = Get it at http://webmail.lao.net !!

17 years

request for Open Guide to Heilbronn, and OpenGuide on JSPwiki

by M.B.Gaved

Hi OG developers! (also Christoph, Chuck) first off thanks to Dom for hosting copenhagen.openguides.org, yippee, I can see the first entries appearing already. Everybody say hello to Rikke who I met at WikiSym and asked if she could set up an Openguide for Copenhagen! Also, a second request for an Open Guide from some nice guys I met at WikiSym06. Everybody, meet Christoph (sauer(a)hs-heilbronn.de) and Chuck (chuckssmith(a)gmail.com). Christoph and Chuck, meet the Open Guides developers list :-) (http://openguides.org/mm/listinfo/openguides-dev) Christoph and Chuck work at the i3g Institute of the Hochschule Heilbronn in Germany, they'd like to set up an Open Guide for Heilbronn. I got talking to them both at the markup workshops, we were working on the WikiCreole proposals - http://www.wikicreole.org/wiki/Home These guys know their way round wikis, Chuck is the founder of Esperanto Wikipedia, and head developer of WikiWizard (http://www.jspwiki.org/wiki/WikiWizard), Christoph founded WikiWizard and does a lot of JSPWiki work. So what they'd like to do is to to run an Open Guide to Heilbronn, heilbronn.openguides.org on JSPWiki. Chuck says they can host it on their server. Is this possible? Sorry for being the proverbial non-techie as usual :-) Anyhow, you've now got each others emails, consider yourselves introduced, chat away! all the best Mark (Milton Keynes Open Guide) Mark Gaved Knowledge Media Institute The Open University Walton Hall Milton Keynes, UK MK7 6AA http://kmi.open.ac.uk/people/mark

17 years

RDF Workshop

by Earle Martin

Hi all, I've been talking to Evan Prodromou[0] of WikiTravel[1] about our and their RDF output, and we agree that we basically have the same needs, so it would make sense to hash out a shared format for easier interchange between our two projects. I've started a workshop page at http://dev.openguides.org/wiki/RdfWorkshop for us to sketch out ideas. Cheers, Earle. -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.org/net/earlemartin/

17 years

[mdchaney@michaelchaney.com: Re: [Plucene] New CPAN module Lucene-0.01]

by Dominic Hargreaves

Anyone fancy taking a look at this in the context of OpenGuides to see whether it holds the same benefits for us? Cheers, Dominic. ----- Forwarded message from Michael Chaney <mdchaney(a)michaelchaney.com> ----- X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:54:08 -0500 From: Michael Chaney <mdchaney(a)michaelchaney.com> To: plucene(a)kasei.com Subject: Re: [Plucene] New CPAN module Lucene-0.01 Organization: Michael Chaney Consulting Corporation User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 06:41:22PM +0200, Thomas Busch wrote: > Hi all, > > I just released the CPAN module Lucene-0.01 which is a perl > API to the C++ port of the Lucene search engine. > > Have a look: > > http://search.cpan.org/~tbusch/Lucene-0.01/lib/Lucene.pm I wanted to do a little writeup on this when I had a chance. Unfortunately, the machine that I set it up on is down so I can't include code just yet, but let me say this: if you are using Plucene, run, and I mean run, to this. I have some pretty complex code to do indexing and searching. I spent about two hours total recoding it to work with this Lucene version. The speed difference cannot be overstated. Building an index went from taking 5.5 hours to 13 minutes (this is about 330,000 items). That's a speed difference of about 25 times. For lookups, it usually takes about .1 second, as opposed to 4-5 seconds. This is an even larger speedup in proportionality. Changing it boiled down to renaming a couple of things. Obviously, Plucene -> Lucene. Beyond that, index::writer is index::indexwriter or something like that. The changes were simple. Missing functionality that I would like: I had something that would read the keys from a Plucene index, and it's not there. I can work around it, probably another 30 minutes of work. The weighted-query parser is missing, too, but I could probably hack that in given time. It's not present on the CLucene base, so maybe it'll be added there. Many thanks to Thomas Busch for this, as well as the CLucene authors. This thing is extremely fast and very reliable. It pretty much worked the first time for me. Give it a try if you're using Plucene; you will be glad you did. Michael -- Michael Darrin Chaney mdchaney(a)michaelchaney.com http://www.michaelchaney.com/ _______________________________________________ Plucene mailing list Plucene(a)kasei.com http://www.kasei.com/mailman/listinfo/plucene ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/ PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email)

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