I just discovered an interesting project called "Add Your Own":
It's a wiki restaurant review system! They even have a rudimentary metadata
system for locations and restaurant types. Is it worth us plugging the OG
system to them?
One interesting thing their site does that ours doesn't is a summary view:
I think this is a smart innovation. It would be nice to be able to do that
for a given category - see a list of all the nodes, with selected metadata
fields, in a tabular format. Maybe this is something I should have a go at,
since it's long overdue that I contributed some more code.
Ha! Someone's already mentioned us to them! Fantastic.
# Earle Martin http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?EarleMartin
veeg sent this round the company mailing list today. Very shiny.
Like the alistapart "Taming Lists" article, but much much more. I may
steal one of these tricks to liven up the Reading OpenGuide navbar.
lots of examples of the different ways of applying style to simple html
(MLP stands for "mindless link propagation", stolen from kuro5hin.
I'm going to put this in the subject line for posts where I'm just
passing out URLs that I want you lot to read and consider in the
context of possibilities for the OpenGuides software.)
Another one from Alex (yaxu):
An examination of how different ways of organising categorised content
can improve the usability of a site containing a large quantity of information.
Now that we have OpenGuides sprouting up across the globe, it would be nice to have a list of all the sites. This will become
increasingly important in several scenarios:
1. I want to set up a new guide to Fooville. Is anyone already doing it?
2. I'm a roving traveller with friends in thousands of places, all hooked up to the net. I've
just stumbled on OpenGuides and I want to entice my friends to be contributors.
3. I'm running a global business with franchises across the globe. I have read
favourable reports on london.openguides.org of my outlets there. I want to see if
other guides exist for the other cities working franchises.
What I have in mind is something on the lines of PAUSE/CPAN. Filling in a web form
with details of a new proposed site will post to a mailing list. If the site is accepted, it
is added to the OpenGuides global directory,
The list of guides (by approval status) is available to all in a picklist by country (and
state if appropriate).
Clearly, registering your guide and getting it approved is optional, due to the open
source nature of the software. But, launching a new guide might possibly be a
1. Search the list to see if a guide already exists (approved or unapproved)
2. Work out your hosting arrangements. Some people already hosting guides are
willing to host additional guides for new cities.
3. Set up an empty shell of a guide (install the software first if you are hosting
4. Register the guide.
5. Publicise it and recruit some core contributors.
6. Write up lots of pages! Get your friends to do the same.
7. When you are happy that the site is big enough to launch, log on to the directory and
update its status to launched.
Also hanging off this guide entry (once approved) is a directory which someone with
the guide's password can ftp or upload to, containing customisations:
stylesheets, templates, etc. that are in use at the site, allowing people
maintaining other guides to benefit from any neat graphical design, gismos, styles,
[Thu Nov 27 23:15:03 2003] index.cgi:
Search::InvertedIndex::remove_index_from_group() - Corrupted database.
Unable to find 'ged_000000000000_c_000000000523' record
[Thu Nov 27 23:15:03 2003] index.cgi: at
/home/earle/openguides.org/lib/CGI/Wiki/Search/SII.pm line 204
This is for the London site. Should I be worried?
hex on irc.perl.orghttp://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/
I'm new to the list, I learned about OpenGuides via the perl.com
article published recently. I'm a web designer and perl coder in
Cincinnati, Ohio. The reason that I'm interested in OpenGuides is a
website that I currently manage which promotes downtown Cincinnati as a
place to live, work and play:
I'm not sure if OpenGuides is something I can integrate into this
website or not. And although I personally like wiki sites, I doubt that
my client would allow anyone outside of their organization to publish
info to the site without administrator review and approval. So I guess
that's my research task: Looking into whether there is an approval
mechanism already implemented in OG. I've also noticed that the OG
sites listed as examples looking remarkably similar, so I'm hoping to
find out how much the template system can be modified. I've already
noticed that OG requires PostgreSQL, whereas I've used MySQL in my work
so far. More to research...
Also, I'm not sure whether any work I've done can be of benefit to OG
or not. I certainly haven't tried to distribute that code to anyone
else, so it would require some refactoring and repackaging, if there's
unimplemented but desirable features in the first place. I'd also need
to get my client's approval to open source some of their code if it's
I'm intending to get OG installed on a test machine soon so that I can
become more aware of its architecture and features, and I hope to lurk
here for a little while until I get my bearings.
I've got a few other tasks to attend to before I can attempt to install
OG, so I'll leave you with wishes for a happy Thanksgiving to those of
you who celebrate the holiday, and a good day/evening to those of you
>From http://openguides.org/stats/ :
month: reqs: pages:
--------: -----: -----:
May 2003: 30: 15: +
Jun 2003: 9935: 664: +++++++
Jul 2003: 36317: 1527: ++++++++++++++++
Aug 2003: 16589: 1664: +++++++++++++++++
Sep 2003: 12387: 1216: +++++++++++++
Oct 2003: 23811: 2538: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Nov 2003: 25036: 3900: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Of course, this is only for the stuff hosted on openguides.org itself.
hex on irc.perl.orghttp://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/
62 designs all using the same html:
This link got sent round the internal list at work today. It would be
great to have this much flexibility in the OpenGuides templates, and
to have some talented designers working on the sites. I'd
particularly like a nice style for the Reading OpenGuide.
I worry about people forking the templates, since they *do* contain
functionality. Even if we fix a bug in the distributed templates, sites
using custom templates will still be buggy. I've seen this happen on
the London site.