62 designs all using the same html: http://www.csszengarden.com/ This link got sent round the internal list at work today. It would be great to have this much flexibility in the OpenGuides templates, and to have some talented designers working on the sites. I'd particularly like a nice style for the Reading OpenGuide. I worry about people forking the templates, since they *do* contain functionality. Even if we fix a bug in the distributed templates, sites using custom templates will still be buggy. I've seen this happen on the London site. Kake