6 Aug
2008
6 Aug
'08
7:07 p.m.
I will remove the following guides from the project home page in a few
days unless anyone pipes up (I will check again before removing them):
Birmingham: message about a server crash.
Glasgow: missing DNS
Lancaster: blank page
Manchester: default site page (wonky.org.uk)
Montreal: can't contact server
Do ask on list if you're responsible for a guide which is offline for
whatever reason if you'd like help restoring it.
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6 Aug
6 Aug
7:10 p.m.
Hi Dominic,
I think you could also remove New York. Unfortunately I never really had a
chance to build it up as much as I wanted and those spammers are killing me
...
Thanks,
Markus
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Dominic Hargreaves <dom(a)earth.li> wrote:
I will remove the following guides from the project
home page in a few
days unless anyone pipes up (I will check again before removing them):
Birmingham: message about a server crash.
Glasgow: missing DNS
Lancaster: blank page
Manchester: default site page (wonky.org.uk)
Montreal: can't contact server
Do ask on list if you're responsible for a guide which is offline for
whatever reason if you'd like help restoring it.
--
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http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/<http://www.larted.org.uk/%7Edom/>
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9:55 p.m.
Hi!
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 07:07:10PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
I will remove the following guides from the project
home page in a few
days unless anyone pipes up (I will check again before removing them):
vienna.openguides.org is now also officially dead. For one, we don't
have enough people who care to enter data. Additionally, recently a
startup in Vienna launched that's doing basically the same as OpenGuides
(though not so open..):
http://tupalo.com/
As they have money, they do a much better job than a few volunteers.
(I'm not at all affiliated to them, and I hardly use their site..)
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19 Aug
19 Aug
7:07 p.m.
On Wed 06 Aug 2008, Thomas Klausner <domm(a)cpan.org> wrote:
Additionally, recently a startup in Vienna launched
that's doing
basically the same as OpenGuides (though not so open..):
http://tupalo.com/
As they have money, they do a much better job than a few volunteers.
While I'm on this thread, I just wanted to respond to this. I don't
think it's necessarily true that people with money will do a better
job than a few volunteers. I don't think there are any London sites
that are conclusively better than RGL, for example. Although there
are some that are better in some ways (generally coverage), they're
less good in others (generally data quality, signal-to-noise ratio).
Tupalo may of course be the one that finally breaks out of the crowd!
But in general, I don't think domm's assertion is true.
Kake
8:32 p.m.
Hi!
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 07:07:25PM +0100, Kake L Pugh wrote:
On Wed 06 Aug 2008, Thomas Klausner
<domm(a)cpan.org> wrote:
Uhm, I guess that's not what I wanted to say, at least not in the
general sense. But still, it depends on the number of volunteers and the
involved money. In Vienna's case, that's one or two people with no time
vs. an "aggressive" startup.
Additionally, recently a startup in Vienna
launched that's doing
basically the same as OpenGuides (though not so open..):
http://tupalo.com/
As they have money, they do a much better job than a few volunteers.
While I'm on this thread, I just wanted to respond to this. I don't
think it's necessarily true that people with money will do a better
job than a few volunteers. But in general, I don't think domm's assertion
is true.
Well, I miss-phrased my assertion. What I meant was "Usually a group of
people who get paid for their job do better then one or two volunteers
with no significant time (actually, no time at all...) to spend on the
project."
But still, too bad that it didn't work out for Vienna, and it definitly
wasn't the fault of the software...
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20 Aug
20 Aug
7:31 a.m.
On Tue 19 Aug 2008, Thomas Klausner <domm(a)cpan.org> wrote:
Well, I miss-phrased my assertion. What I meant was
"Usually a group of
people who get paid for their job do better then one or two volunteers
with no significant time (actually, no time at all...) to spend on the
project."
i.e. "people with time to spend on a project generally do better than
people with no time to spend on it"? :) I'd agree with that!
But still, too bad that it didn't work out for
Vienna, and it definitly
wasn't the fault of the software...
Yes, it is a shame, but thank you for trying to get it going!
Kake
19 Aug
19 Aug
7:02 p.m.
On Wed 06 Aug 2008, Dominic Hargreaves <dom(a)earth.li> wrote:
I will remove the following guides from the project
home page in a few
days unless anyone pipes up (I will check again before removing them):
Birmingham: message about a server crash.
Glasgow: missing DNS
Lancaster: blank page
Manchester: default site page (wonky.org.uk)
Montreal: can't contact server
I've now removed all five of these from the city list on http://openguides.org/
I've also removed New York and Vienna (the latter two by request of
their admins). If any of these guides are ever resurrected, they can
of course go back on.
However, in happier news, there is an addition to the list, namely the
Open Guide to CERN:
http://cern.openguides.org/
It's hosted by Bob, and adminned by me, Bob, and Richard Plackett
(Richard is the one who actually has a connection to CERN). Its
geographical remit is "Geneva and its environs in Switzerland, out as
far as Thoiry and Gex in France".
Also, thanks to behind-the-scenes work by Kat and Dom, the OpenGuides
website is now pretty easy to update, and so I've been fixing a few
long-standing niggles with it (as well as adding new news). The
design still needs work, but this is now much much easier to do than
it was a few months ago. So if there's anything you think needs
adding or changing, please shout!
Kake
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