I will remove the following guides from the project home page in a few days unless anyone pipes up (I will check again before removing them):
Birmingham: message about a server crash. Glasgow: missing DNS Lancaster: blank page Manchester: default site page (wonky.org.uk) Montreal: can't contact server
Do ask on list if you're responsible for a guide which is offline for whatever reason if you'd like help restoring it.
Hi Dominic,
I think you could also remove New York. Unfortunately I never really had a chance to build it up as much as I wanted and those spammers are killing me ...
Thanks, Markus
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Dominic Hargreaves dom@earth.li wrote:
I will remove the following guides from the project home page in a few days unless anyone pipes up (I will check again before removing them):
Birmingham: message about a server crash. Glasgow: missing DNS Lancaster: blank page Manchester: default site page (wonky.org.uk) Montreal: can't contact server
Do ask on list if you're responsible for a guide which is offline for whatever reason if you'd like help restoring it.
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Hi!
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 07:07:10PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
I will remove the following guides from the project home page in a few days unless anyone pipes up (I will check again before removing them):
vienna.openguides.org is now also officially dead. For one, we don't have enough people who care to enter data. Additionally, recently a startup in Vienna launched that's doing basically the same as OpenGuides (though not so open..): http://tupalo.com/
As they have money, they do a much better job than a few volunteers.
(I'm not at all affiliated to them, and I hardly use their site..)
On Wed 06 Aug 2008, Thomas Klausner domm@cpan.org wrote:
Additionally, recently a startup in Vienna launched that's doing basically the same as OpenGuides (though not so open..): http://tupalo.com/
As they have money, they do a much better job than a few volunteers.
While I'm on this thread, I just wanted to respond to this. I don't think it's necessarily true that people with money will do a better job than a few volunteers. I don't think there are any London sites that are conclusively better than RGL, for example. Although there are some that are better in some ways (generally coverage), they're less good in others (generally data quality, signal-to-noise ratio).
Tupalo may of course be the one that finally breaks out of the crowd! But in general, I don't think domm's assertion is true.
Kake
Hi!
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 07:07:25PM +0100, Kake L Pugh wrote:
On Wed 06 Aug 2008, Thomas Klausner domm@cpan.org wrote:
Additionally, recently a startup in Vienna launched that's doing basically the same as OpenGuides (though not so open..): http://tupalo.com/
As they have money, they do a much better job than a few volunteers.
While I'm on this thread, I just wanted to respond to this. I don't think it's necessarily true that people with money will do a better job than a few volunteers.
Uhm, I guess that's not what I wanted to say, at least not in the general sense. But still, it depends on the number of volunteers and the involved money. In Vienna's case, that's one or two people with no time vs. an "aggressive" startup.
But in general, I don't think domm's assertion is true.
Well, I miss-phrased my assertion. What I meant was "Usually a group of people who get paid for their job do better then one or two volunteers with no significant time (actually, no time at all...) to spend on the project."
But still, too bad that it didn't work out for Vienna, and it definitly wasn't the fault of the software...
On Tue 19 Aug 2008, Thomas Klausner domm@cpan.org wrote:
Well, I miss-phrased my assertion. What I meant was "Usually a group of people who get paid for their job do better then one or two volunteers with no significant time (actually, no time at all...) to spend on the project."
i.e. "people with time to spend on a project generally do better than people with no time to spend on it"? :) I'd agree with that!
But still, too bad that it didn't work out for Vienna, and it definitly wasn't the fault of the software...
Yes, it is a shame, but thank you for trying to get it going!
Kake
On Wed 06 Aug 2008, Dominic Hargreaves dom@earth.li wrote:
I will remove the following guides from the project home page in a few days unless anyone pipes up (I will check again before removing them):
Birmingham: message about a server crash. Glasgow: missing DNS Lancaster: blank page Manchester: default site page (wonky.org.uk) Montreal: can't contact server
I've now removed all five of these from the city list on http://openguides.org/
I've also removed New York and Vienna (the latter two by request of their admins). If any of these guides are ever resurrected, they can of course go back on.
However, in happier news, there is an addition to the list, namely the Open Guide to CERN: http://cern.openguides.org/
It's hosted by Bob, and adminned by me, Bob, and Richard Plackett (Richard is the one who actually has a connection to CERN). Its geographical remit is "Geneva and its environs in Switzerland, out as far as Thoiry and Gex in France".
Also, thanks to behind-the-scenes work by Kat and Dom, the OpenGuides website is now pretty easy to update, and so I've been fixing a few long-standing niggles with it (as well as adding new news). The design still needs work, but this is now much much easier to do than it was a few months ago. So if there's anything you think needs adding or changing, please shout!
Kake
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