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[OpenGuides-Dev] Bad handling of 8-bit characters; state change on GET request
by Dominic Hargreaves 02 Jun '04

02 Jun '04

Hi, The Oxford guide is having problems with some clients mangling the é (in this particular case) in Category links: <http://www.ox.compsoc.net/oxfordguide/> This is a particular problem because of course a GET request on Categories will auto-create the category. The culprit appears, in the most recent case, to be this: msnbot64124.search.msn.com - - [24/May/2004:10:00:57 +0100] "GET /oxfordguide/?id=Category%20Caf%C3%83%C6%92%C3%86%E2%80%99f%C3%83%C6%92%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%C5%A1%C3%83%E2%80%9A%C3%82%C2%A9s;format=rdf HTTP/1.0" 200 1506 "-" "msnbot/0.11 (+http://search.msn.com/msnbot.htm)" I haven't looked closely into which of the bot and us are at fault yet, but has anyone else seen this problem? This needs fixing in two ways: - the site should not create categories on the basis of a GET request (RFC 2616 sec 9.1.1), therefore categories need to be created at the time that they are entered into a node, rather than on first access. - it would be nice to locate the source of this charset confusion, but if the above is fixed this is a secondary consideration (it may turn out that the problem is entirely brokenness on the client side in which case it can be safely ignored) Cheers, Dominic.

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RE: [OpenGuides-Dev] Bad handling of 8-bit characters; state change on GET request
by IvorW 02 Jun '04

02 Jun '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: openguides-dev-bounces(a)openguides.org > [mailto:openguides-dev-bounces@openguides.org]On Behalf Of Kate L Pugh > Sent: 02 June 2004 13:51 > To: OpenGuides software developers > Subject: Re: [OpenGuides-Dev] Bad handling of 8-bit characters;state > change on GET request > > > On Wed 02 Jun 2004, IvorW <ivorw-openguides(a)xemaps.com> wrote: > > I think we may need to get un's admin to upgrade to the > latest version of > > this module if you are not already on it. > > You want to be using private libraries for your dev work anyhow. I always had trouble getting my test wiki on un to respect PERL5LIB for some wierd reason. Anyway, you need CGI::Wiki::Plugin::Diff 0.06 and OpenGuides 0.31. Hopefully your diffing problem will go away.

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Re: [OpenGuides-Dev] Bad handling of 8-bit characters; state change on GET request
by Kate L Pugh 02 Jun '04

02 Jun '04

On Wed 02 Jun 2004, IvorW <ivorw-openguides(a)xemaps.com> wrote: > I think we may need to get un's admin to upgrade to the latest version of > this module if you are not already on it. You want to be using private libraries for your dev work anyhow. Kake

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RE: [OpenGuides-Dev] Bad handling of 8-bit characters; state change on GET request
by IvorW 02 Jun '04

02 Jun '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: openguides-dev-bounces(a)openguides.org > [mailto:openguides-dev-bounces@openguides.org]On Behalf Of Dominic > Hargreaves > Sent: 02 June 2004 13:36 > To: OpenGuides software developers > Subject: Re: [OpenGuides-Dev] Bad handling of 8-bit characters;state > change on GET request > > > On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 01:28:30AM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > > It's installed on > http://un.earth.li/~dom/cgi-bin/oxfordguide-test/wiki.cgi for testing. > Yell if it does something wrong. > > As far as releasing goes, it might be worth tracking down the Diff > problems some of us are seeing first. Ho hum... The test guide is showing version 0.30. This uses OpenGuides::Diff which is obsoleted and replaced by CGI::Wiki::Plugin::Diff, which has the diffing problems sorted AFAIK. I think we may need to get un's admin to upgrade to the latest version of this module if you are not already on it. Any issues you find with C::W::P::D, please submit an RT ticket. Ta, Ivor.

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[OpenGuides-Dev] OpenGuides version 0.31
by IvorW 28 May '04

28 May '04

Hi there, I notice from the dev CVS that 0.31 has a considerable number of changes. Any chance it can be released? I would like a nice clean baseline for the geographical changes (UTM) I am making. Also, I thought that the code had been changed to use CGI::Wiki::Plugin::Diff rather than OpenGuides::Diff. I will make this change as well. Ivor.

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Trademark!
by Earle Martin 27 May '04

27 May '04

I am extremely pleased to see that an existing application for "Open Guides" as a UK trademark (that I've been keeping an eye on for the last year or so) has now kicked the bucket: http://webdb4.patent.gov.uk/tm/number?detailsrequested=C&trademark=2199431 Anybody fancy chipping in towards the 200 quid needed to register us a trademark? I'm sure we could raise it between everybody on this list (that is, if y'all think it's worthwhile - I do). -- Earle Martin hex on irc.perl.org http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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RE: [OpenGuides-Dev] Trademark!
by Barbie 27 May '04

27 May '04

On 26 May 2004 21:48 Earle Martin wrote: > I am extremely pleased to see that an existing application > for "Open Guides" > as a UK trademark (that I've been keeping an eye on for the > last year or so) > has now kicked the bucket: > > http://webdb4.patent.gov.uk/tm/number?detailsrequested=C&trade > mark=2199431 > > Anybody fancy chipping in towards the 200 quid needed to register us a > trademark? I'm sure we could raise it between everybody on > this list (that > is, if y'all think it's worthwhile - I do). Would it be worth approaching The Perl Foundation to do this, or obtain a grant to be able to do it? Barbie.

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[OpenGuides-Dev] FacetWiki
by Jo Walsh 18 May '04

18 May '04

i had a brief fascinating chat with the author of PeriPeri, a testingground rdf-backed miniwiki, earlier this evening and ran across this entertaining and possibly pertinent page on faceted classification / unplugging hierarchies etc. maybe old news? http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?FacetWiki FWIW re Habituation, i have found distinct fields and purposes for Category and Locale to be invaluable, but the category foo / category foo index distinction to be a bit painful and disjointy to unaccustomed users... zx

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[OpenGuides-Dev] External link indicator
by Earle Martin 18 May '04

18 May '04

At the moment, links to external sites are denoted with [brackets like so]. What do people think of this? http://www.possibility.com/epowiki/Wiki.jsp?page=About I really like those arrows; that would also let us set the alt text to "(external link)" for accessibility purposes, which is more screen-reader friendly than using brackets. -- Earle Martin hex on irc.perl.org http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] RE: Habituation is bad.
by IvorW 18 May '04

18 May '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: openguides-london-bounces(a)openguides.org > [mailto:openguides-london-bounces@openguides.org]On Behalf Of Earle > Martin > Sent: 17 May 2004 00:00 > To: openguides-dev(a)openguides.org > Cc: openguides-london(a)openguides.org > Subject: [OpenGuides-London] Habituation is bad. > > ... > How to remedy this situation, as far as I can see: > > 1) Warn the users. > 2) Change the code so that nodes no longer have "Category" or "Locale" > prepended to their names. > 3) Find all the pages that fit the pattern of "Fred" and > "Category Fred" > and merge the latter into the former - automatically for > cases where the > former contains only a redirect, and manually for > everything else (not > many cases, hopefully). > 4) Munge all links pointing to "Category X"/"Locale Y". > 5) Erm, that's it? Did I miss anything? I am in favour in principle of what you are suggesting. However, we need to be very careful. Consider an extreme case. Suppose we have a contributor called Victoria, working on the guide. Does she have to share her home node with the description of the place of the same name? Other related entries are distinguished in the node title: Queen_Victoria, Victoria_Station, (category) Victorian. I think we need a metadata field called node type. This can take the following values for starters: - Person - Category - Place - Locale Note: a place has a pinpoint location, whereas a locale has an area. If we put this in place, we could have different templates for each node type. Also, we could distinguish between Victoria(Place) and Victoria(Person). My £0.02 Ivor.

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