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[OpenGuides-Dev] Fw: CPAN Upload: I/IV/IVORW/CGI-Wiki-Plugin-Diff-0.07.tar.gz
by IvorW 26 Jun '04

26 Jun '04

This fixes the problems that Dom (& others) were having with diff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUSE" <upload(a)pause.perl.org> To: "Ivor Williams" <6bed-rgew(a)spamex.com> Sent: 26 June 2004 13:02 Subject: CPAN Upload: I/IV/IVORW/CGI-Wiki-Plugin-Diff-0.07.tar.gz > * Replies will be sent through Spamex to cpan-testers(a)perl.org > * For additional info click -> http://www.spamex.com/i/?v=3625358 > > The uploaded file > > CGI-Wiki-Plugin-Diff-0.07.tar.gz > > has entered CPAN as > > file: $CPAN/authors/id/I/IV/IVORW/CGI-Wiki-Plugin-Diff-0.07.tar.gz > size: 7458 bytes > md5: 83ea44c82bfe9d07df9681330c76d88d > > No action is required on your part > Request entered by: IVORW (Ivor Williams) > Request entered on: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:02:10 GMT > Request completed: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:02:36 GMT > > Thanks, > -- > paused, v460

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[OpenGuides-Dev] IMPORTANT UPGRADE: OpenGuides 0.35
by Earle Martin 26 Jun '04

26 Jun '04

Kake has now released version 0.35 of OpenGuides, and I would recommend that everyone upgrades to it as soon as possible. The change that this version brings is the ability to delete specific history versions of any node; this is an important tool to combat wiki spammers, who are becoming increasingly common. Up until now, even if you reverted their change, their spam would remain in your database forever and still be available in node history. This is now no longer the case. So, I suggest upgrading as soon as possible (requires the new CGI::Wiki 0.54). My thanks to Kake for implementing this so quickly after it was suggested. Cheers, Earle. -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] New guide: Bologna
by Earle Martin 26 Jun '04

26 Jun '04

I am very pleased to welcome Bologna to the OpenGuides family! http://bologna.openguides.org/ I hope you have every success, and do keep us updated on how internationalization is working out for you. Cheers, Earle. -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] New page maker
by Kate L Pugh 25 Jun '04

25 Jun '04

On Wed 19 May 2004, Bob Walker wrote to openguides-london: > on the new page page http://london.openguides.org/newpage.cgi > it would be nice to have a link to > http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Adding_New_Pages > > just in case someone dives right it wihtout havign read > http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?How_To_Get_Started > and indeed that might be a good link to have there as well. I am thinking that the best way to implement this would be to add an editable section the new page maker, so people can add in whatever their guides' help pages are rather than hardcoding them or having yet another config variable. Any objections? Kake

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RE: [OpenGuides-Dev] Spam, node history and recent changes
by IvorW 25 Jun '04

25 Jun '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: openguides-dev-bounces(a)openguides.org > [mailto:openguides-dev-bounces@openguides.org]On Behalf Of > Earle Martin > Sent: 25 June 2004 09:09 > To: openguides-dev(a)openguides.org > Subject: [OpenGuides-Dev] Spam, node history and recent changes > > > I see london.og has had some spam put on it (thanks Kake and Ivor for > undoing the damage). I just made myself look a muppet by > forgetting how our > front-page recent changes box works and trying to commit a > page change with > a different summary so the spam wouldn't appear on the front > page - only, of > course, that didn't work because the listing doesn't collapse multiple > occurrences of the same node. > > This is a problem, because it means spammers can attack any > page and be > _guaranteed_ to be on the site's front page for a while, > until they've been > pushed off the bottom of the list. > > So, can I propose that on the _front_ page, we collapse > multiple occurrences > of any single node so that only the most recent change is > listed? This would > probably necessitate a slight phrasing change to "ten most > recently changed > pages". Agreed we should compress multiple changes to the same page. After all, people only get to see ten of them. While we are at it, I think we should also filter out "null edits" (and not saving them). As it is, we do see plenty of null edits appearing in RecentChanges, on the front page, and in change histories of individual pages. Regarding suppressing pages appearing on the front page, I suggest that we provide the facility to make the "change type" of a particular version editable after the event. That way, we can change unwanted edits to "minor tidying". > > Also, it's been pointed out (on > http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?WikiSpam > ) that once the spammer makes a modification, it stays in the page history > forever, and thus stays accessible to search engines, justifying the attack > in the first place. There are two ways to combat this, I think: (a) make > history pages not available to search engines (which I think should be the > case anyway, because they contain mistakes and other crud - so I'll make > this happen), and (b) let site administrators delete particular _versions_ > of a page, perhaps just by replacing the content with "deleted", rather than > actually removing it - that way it could show up on the page history as > "(deleted)" or some such. (a) I agree totally. (b) We want perhaps to make this a soft delete, or archive the dead text somewhere else in case we need it for legal reasons.

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Spam, node history and recent changes
by Earle Martin 25 Jun '04

25 Jun '04

I see london.og has had some spam put on it (thanks Kake and Ivor for undoing the damage). I just made myself look a muppet by forgetting how our front-page recent changes box works and trying to commit a page change with a different summary so the spam wouldn't appear on the front page - only, of course, that didn't work because the listing doesn't collapse multiple occurrences of the same node. This is a problem, because it means spammers can attack any page and be _guaranteed_ to be on the site's front page for a while, until they've been pushed off the bottom of the list. So, can I propose that on the _front_ page, we collapse multiple occurrences of any single node so that only the most recent change is listed? This would probably necessitate a slight phrasing change to "ten most recently changed pages". Also, it's been pointed out (on http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?WikiSpam ) that once the spammer makes a modification, it stays in the page history forever, and thus stays accessible to search engines, justifying the attack in the first place. There are two ways to combat this, I think: (a) make history pages not available to search engines (which I think should be the case anyway, because they contain mistakes and other crud - so I'll make this happen), and (b) let site administrators delete particular _versions_ of a page, perhaps just by replacing the content with "deleted", rather than actually removing it - that way it could show up on the page history as "(deleted)" or some such. Thoughts? -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] grids, templates
by Jo Walsh 25 Jun '04

25 Jun '04

hello - re the new grids / ellipses thing i'm trying to package up a CGI::Wiki::Plugin::Locator::US to also do geocoding; what about a CGI::Wiki::Plugin::Locator::Base that does all the 'fiddling with the db' stuff that the UK one does? Also; i would vote for changing os_x and os_y to be UTM easting and northing (which they are, really) naively assuming that all the utm coords in a given city are within one zone. Then default templates for different countries (yawns, arghs, tumbleweeds) can display grid coordinates in different ways; and people could enter lat/long too, though visual feedback does help with not getting this wrong. i would show you shiny map examples but i've managed to break SF openguides terribly by overwriting my hacked up index.html by mistake... doh zx

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Re: [OpenGuides-Dev] New guide: Bologna
by Thomas Klausner 24 Jun '04

24 Jun '04

Hi! On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 12:34:41PM -0400, IvorW wrote: > Is this the first non-English guide? If so, is there a place where > we can post I18n bugs (hardcoded English)? vienna.openguides.org is another non-english guide (in german, BTW). maks translated some of the templates, but he just changed hardcoded english words with german ones. -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-g&&print$_.$/}

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Re: [OpenGuides-Dev] New guide: Bologna
by Kate L Pugh 24 Jun '04

24 Jun '04

On Thu 24 Jun 2004, IvorW <ivorw-openguides(a)xemaps.com> wrote: > Looks like the site suffers from the same problem with > CGI::Wiki::Plugin::Diff 0.06 as the Oxford site. I need to track this down. I emailed you a failing test that I reduced the Oxford site problem to. Do you want me to re-send it? Kake

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RE: [OpenGuides-Dev] New guide: Bologna
by IvorW 24 Jun '04

24 Jun '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: openguides-dev-bounces(a)openguides.org > [mailto:openguides-dev-bounces@openguides.org]On Behalf Of > Earle Martin > Sent: 24 June 2004 17:29 > To: openguides-dev(a)openguides.org > Subject: [OpenGuides-Dev] New guide: Bologna > > > I am very pleased to welcome Bologna to the OpenGuides family! > > http://bologna.openguides.org/ > > I hope you have every success, and do keep us updated on how > internationalization is working out for you. Good stuff! Is this the first non-English guide? If so, is there a place where we can post I18n bugs (hardcoded English)? Looks like the site suffers from the same problem with CGI::Wiki::Plugin::Diff 0.06 as the Oxford site. I need to track this down.

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