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[OpenGuides-Dev] Suggestion for backlinks
by Earle Martin 19 Sep '04

19 Sep '04

At present, clicking a page's title will get you a list of backlinks. It would be useful if this listing included pages redirecting to the page as well, although I'm not sure if that would require additional stuff in the database. At that point, the list could then include backlinks to the redirecting page as well. -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Fantastic new OpenGuides release
by Kake L Pugh 18 Sep '04

18 Sep '04

I just released 0.40 - I'm really happy with this release. I divided up the Recent Changes better, and also added RSS feeds for contributors, locales and categories. Previews running on London data: http://london.openguides.org/kakemirror/index.cgi?RecentChanges http://london.openguides.org/kakemirror/index.cgi?action=rss;username=Kake http://london.openguides.org/kakemirror/index.cgi?action=rss;category=pubs Kake

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[OpenGuides-Dev] OpenGuides 0.39 released, and London mirror
by Kake L Pugh 15 Sep '04

15 Sep '04

----- Forwarded message from PAUSE <upload(a)pause.perl.org> ----- The URL http://the.earth.li/~kake/code/OpenGuides-0.39.tar.gz has entered CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/K/KA/KAKE/OpenGuides-0.39.tar.gz ----- End forwarded message ----- 0.39 offers the option of using Plucene for indexing. Note that you will need to have CGI::Wiki 0.56 and Plucene installed if you want to do this. I recommend that any Guide admins who've had trouble with Search::InvertedIndex error messages ("cannot remove index from group", "corrupted database", that sort of thing) use Plucene instead. I have set up a mirror of the London openguide on un.earth.li - URL path is /~kake/cgi-bin/oglmirror/index.cgi (URL broken up on purpose since I am in a rush and don't have time to stop Google indexing it). This mirror is running on the Plucene backend, the latest OpenGuides release, and the standard templates. I did this because I'm fed up of having to use the older buggy versions of OpenGuides that london.openguides.org runs (note this is NOT meant as a whinge, I know Earle is busy, I'm just explaining why I did it). Earle, would you be OK with me running such a mirror on openguides.org itself so I have an alternative interface to the actual data as opposed to just a copy (database dump)? Kake (rushed)

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Combatting wiki spam
by Kake L Pugh 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

I think pretty much every OpenGuide has been hit by the casino spammers - basically they edit Wiki Etiquette and Wiki Info to include their URL as many times as possible, trying to capitalise on our googlejuice. We implemented admin delete to deal with this, but it does seem to be the same spam over and over again, so guide admins are having to delete it over and over again. Luckily we have a tool to deal with automating repetitive tasks. I would like this to be optional, extensible and configurable. Here is a suggested spam filtering config file (see Config::Tiny for syntax). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [discard_edit] locale = www.casino-online-online.com category = www.casino-online-online.com [discard_edit_regex] locale = www\..* category = www\..* [notify_edit] notify_to_email = kake(a)earth.li username = Anonymous ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (I don't plan to implement notify_edit yet, just stuck it in there to show that this form of config file is quite extensible. Dare I say it, this might be a good task to be implemented as a plugin.) When someone/thing tries to commit an edit that matches a discard rule, they'll get an error message explaining what they did that was naughty. So you could use this to block anonymous edits too, by adding the line "username = Anonymous" to the discard_edit section. Comments? Is there a better way to structure the file without having to add any more prereqs? (I was thinking YAML, but that's yet another prereq and people already complain about how many there are, plus it's another syntax for people to learn.) In particular, this syntax doesn't let us say things like 'Disallow edits if EITHER the locale is "foo" OR (the locale is "Hammersmith" AND the username is "Anonymous")'. I *don't* plan to implement anything that complex right now, because it's not *needed*, but I don't want to tie myself into a format that precludes doing it later. Kake

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[OpenGuides-Dev] 'recent changes' slow to generate
by James Green 12 Sep '04

12 Sep '04

Hiya. The Nottingham OpenGuide[1] takes a considerable time to load the front page; if the machine it's on is using its CPU for anything else, at the time, it takes even longer. While it's loading, mysqld is taking up ~90% of the CPU time according to 'top', running (as far as I can tell) the query that generates the list of recent changes. I had just put it down a One Of Those Things, but I noticed that the other, larger guides such as Oxford and London *don't* have this problem. So, I'm left thinking it's something I've not configured properly -- has anyone got any clues what that might be? People have mentioned MySQL indexes to me, but my understanding of what's going on with them is roughly nil. Any suggestions are very welcome indeed... Cheers, James. [1] http://nottingham.openguides.org/ -- PGP fingerprint 3E85 0C7A FE11 42E9 A599 094D AE16 90F0 81AE 16FF, ID 81AE16FF Go not to the IRC for counsel, for they will say both yes and no. -- (with apologies to JRR Tolkien)

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[OpenGuides-Dev] RDF of Recent Changes doesn't work
by Rev Simon Rumble 11 Sep '04

11 Sep '04

http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?id=RecentChanges;format=rdf Doesn't contain the actual Recent Changes. Is this just an oversight or a bug? -- Rev Simon Rumble <simon(a)rumble.net> www.rumble.net "Those of you who think you know everything are annoying to those of us who do." - David Brent, "The Office"

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[OpenGuides-Dev] [will@spanner.org: Geo::Postcode]
by Kake L Pugh 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

Haven't looked at the module yet, don't know where he's getting the data from. Kake ----- Forwarded message from william ross <will(a)spanner.org> ----- From: william ross <will(a)spanner.org> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:39:06 +0100 To: CDBI <cdbi-talk(a)groups.kasei.com> Subject: Geo::Postcode Hello, I've just finished (for now) and uploaded the module that I use to work with UK postcodes. It handles validation, parsing, location and the common distance-to-here calculation in a fairly economical way, and it can deal transparently with postcodes at different resolutions (ie it will tell you how far it is from 'SW1' to 'EC1Y 8PQ'), to allow for the various data sets that are available. At the moment it's up as Geo::Postcode, but that may well change in order to sit nicely next to similar modules from other countries. The accuracy of its measurements depends on the data set that it's working with. It comes with a basic set of nearly 3000 points that pretty much covers all the postcode areas (like 'E1' or 'LA23'), but no more. That's enough to get started and rough out an application, but for serious public use you will need to license the use of a proper postcode set. The module is designed to accept all sorts of data sources without too much trouble. I mention it here because I use it mostly with CDBI apps, so it is designed to inflate and deflate cleanly as a has_a. If a class already has a se[arate postcode field, it can just be dropped in: My::Person->has_a( postcode => 'Geo::Postcode' ); My::Cinema->has_a( postcode => 'Geo::Postcode' ); my $distance = $person->postcode->distance_from( $cinema->postcode ); ...and much more. I hope it turns out to be useful, and I'd be very glad of feedback and improvements. best will ps. if it hasn't reached your mirror, try www.spanner.org/postcodes/ ----- End forwarded message -----

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RE: [OpenGuides-Dev] Combatting wiki spam
by Bob Walker 27 Aug '04

27 Aug '04

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, IvorW wrote: > > > I agree that we need discard_edit(_regex)? immediately. We need a way > of blocking a range of IP addresses and/or domains. > so that would be a robots.txt then ? apache++ # thought of these things already -- Bob Walker http://www.randomness.org.uk/ Achieve nothing more than pretentious incompetence!

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Northern Ireland Open Guide
by Stephen Stewart 25 Aug '04

25 Aug '04

Hello, I tried to upgrade the NI Open Guide to the latest version last week, unfortunately I wasn't so successful - my host runs Debian Stable and most of the prerequisite modules I install locally, this didn't work for CGI though. boo. Anyway, to cut a long story short I looking for somewhere to put the NI openguide. Could it go on ni.openguides.org? :) Stephen

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RE: [OpenGuides-Dev] Combatting wiki spam
by IvorW 24 Aug '04

24 Aug '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: openguides-dev-bounces(a)openguides.org > [mailto:openguides-dev-bounces@openguides.org]On Behalf Of Kake L Pugh > Sent: 24 August 2004 12:46 > To: openguides-dev(a)openguides.org > Subject: [OpenGuides-Dev] Combatting wiki spam > > > I think pretty much every OpenGuide has been hit by the > casino spammers - > basically they edit Wiki Etiquette and Wiki Info to include their URL > as many times as possible, trying to capitalise on our googlejuice. > > We implemented admin delete to deal with this, but it does seem to be > the same spam over and over again, so guide admins are having to > delete it over and over again. Luckily we have a tool to deal with > automating repetitive tasks. > > I would like this to be optional, extensible and configurable. Here > is a suggested spam filtering config file (see Config::Tiny > for syntax). > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > [discard_edit] > locale = www.casino-online-online.com > category = www.casino-online-online.com > > [discard_edit_regex] > locale = www\..* > category = www\..* > > [notify_edit] > notify_to_email = kake(a)earth.li > username = Anonymous > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > I agree that we need discard_edit(_regex)? immediately. We need a way of blocking a range of IP addresses and/or domains. > (I don't plan to implement notify_edit yet, just stuck it in there to > show that this form of config file is quite extensible. > Dare I say it, > this might be a good task to be implemented as a plugin.) I am thinking that this is the beginnings of a user permissions plugin. But I don't think that we need full blown user permissions to start with. Also, I think that some admins might prefer the 'notification' to be held on the wiki rather than sent via email. They would receive the actual notification via RSS syndication. > > When someone/thing tries to commit an edit that matches a discard > rule, they'll get an error message explaining what they did that was > naughty. So you could use this to block anonymous edits too, by > adding the line "username = Anonymous" to the discard_edit section. > You might want to put some kind of permissions scheme on the pages. A page could be locked - read only to all but admins. Or it could allow an edit, but save the changed version in a different part of the database until someone approves (or rejects) it. > Comments? Is there a better way to structure the file without having > to add any more prereqs? (I was thinking YAML, but that's yet another > prereq and people already complain about how many there are, plus it's > another syntax for people to learn.) > > In particular, this syntax doesn't let us say things like 'Disallow > edits if EITHER the locale is "foo" OR (the locale is "Hammersmith" > AND the username is "Anonymous")'. I *don't* plan to implement > anything that complex right now, because it's not *needed*, but I > don't want to tie myself into a format that precludes doing it later. How about basing it on the apache httpd.conf with a few minor variations. This is at least a format that people are used to. My twopenn'orth, Ivor.

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