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[OpenGuides-Dev] Standing down - or, rather, back
by Kake L Pugh 21 Oct '04

21 Oct '04

Over the past few weeks I've realised that I've completely lost all enthusiasm for OpenGuides. This is a bad thing, and it needs fixing. Part of the problem is that I'm really not very well right now, and I could very much do with handing off some of my responsibilities. The thing that I'm finding hardest at the moment is being the release manager/kwalitee assurer/whatever for OpenGuides. There are several people with CVS commit rights, and that means that before I make a release I have to make sure of a whole pile of things, for example that people's changes work smoothly together, that nobody is going off in a completely bogus direction, that implementation decisions are made sensibly, that the code is no more complicated than is necessary to get the job done, that documentation is kept up to date, that new code is thoroughly tested, and that old tests still pass. And so on. I let 0.41 escape with a failing test, and this is yet another indicator that I'm getting tired. I need to pass on overall responsibility for OpenGuides to someone else, at least for a couple of months. However this leaves me with a problem - who? It seems to me that although there are several people connected with the project who are exceedingly enthusiastic about OpenGuides, and likewise several people who I feel could take this task over from me, these groups don't overlap at all. In other words, I don't think any of the people who are likely to want to take over from me are quite ready for it just yet, and I don't think any of the people who could handle the job are likely to both want it and have time to do it. (I'm not going to get into an argument with anyone over whether they're up to this task. Please trust my judgement. However if you think you could do it and you think I've overlooked you solely due to underestimating your enthusiasm for OpenGuides or free time to work on it, please drop me a private mail.) So it looks like we're probably going to have to start trying to recruit someone who's not currently hooked on OpenGuides - find somebody competent and *get* them hooked. Unless one of you clever people can come up with another solution. Comments and discussion welcomed and encouraged - the sooner we start sorting this out the better, both for me and for the project. Kake

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[OpenGuides-Dev] OpenGuides 0.42 released
by Dominic Hargreaves 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

As per the subject - available on CPAN now as usual, and in my Debian repository tonight probably. http://search.cpan.org/dist/OpenGuides/ The main Changes: - Minor search bugfixes/refactoring. - *INCOMPATIBLE CHANGE* Custom templates are now stored in user-definable path, and their names are prefixed with custom_. This only affects you if you have used the custom template support introduced in 0.41. - Dependency on CGI::Wiki::Plugin::Geocache dropped (logic is now handled in templates). Cheers, Dominic.

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Fwd: Vermelding Wikimaas
by Earle Martin 20 Oct '04

20 Oct '04

Anybody speak Dutch?? ----- Forwarded message from WikiBewerker <noreply(a)wikimaas.tk> ----- Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:49:18 "GMT" From: WikiBewerker <noreply(a)wikimaas.tk> To: Open guides London <earle(a)downlode.org> Subject: Vermelding Wikimaas Beste Open guides London, Sinds kort staat u, of uw organisatie/bedrijf, beschreven op het artikel Useful Links op WikiMaas. Deze WikiMaas (http://www.wikimaas.tk) is een alternatieve gids voor Maastricht, met daarin allerlei nuttige en leuke zaken die niet direct bij de VVV besproken worden. Iedere bezoeker kan informatie toevoegen en wijzigen. Het staat u vrij om meer informatie aan het artikel Useful Links toe te voegen, of bepaalde teksten te wijzigen. Wel zouden we er u op willen wijzen dat we qua schrijfstijl een informeel karakter proberen te behouden, en dat we per definitie geen reclame-site zijn. Een beschrijving is prima, maar kreten als 'superleuk' en 'de beste van Maastricht' voegen we liever zelf toe. Als u iets toevoegd, probeert u dat dan alstublieft in het Engels. Maastricht ligt in de Euregio. Frans, Duits en Nederlands zijn hier gemeengoed. Om een ieder dezelfde drempel te geven, willen we de site helemaal in het Engels schrijven. Wanneer u op uw website een link naar de WikiMaas zou willen plaatsen zouden we dit zeer waarderen. Het is echter geenszins verplicht en het heeft geen gevolgen voor uw vermelding op de WikiMaas. Met vriendelijke groet, Dani?l WikiMaas http://www.wikimaas.tk ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] openguides.org domain
by Rev Simon Rumble 19 Oct '04

19 Oct '04

Hi folks. Could I get subdomain of openguides.org for my Openguide please? http://stout.rumble.net/touristengineer/ I think I've got to the point where I can start opening it up more widely. I would appreciate any comments. I'm after: engineer.openguides.org, pointed at 64.5.53.147. -- Rev Simon Rumble <simon(a)rumble.net> www.rumble.net Grub first, then ethics. - Bertolt Brecht

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Reciprocal link exchange
by info＠whatshappening.co.uk 19 Oct '04

19 Oct '04

Hi, I am wondering if you are interested in exchanging a reciprocal link/banner with us. We are a website which provides users a listing and reviews of popular locations (Restaurants, Bars, Pubs and Clubs) in and around London. Our name is www.whatshappening.co.uk. Please have a look through our site and let me know what your thoughts are. If you are interested in exchanging a link/banner I will happily put a link from your site onto our site. Thank you for your time. With best regards, Stephan Uchtmann

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Re: OpenGuides release
by Dominic Hargreaves 16 Oct '04

16 Oct '04

On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 01:36:47PM +0100, Kake L Pugh wrote: > On Thu 14 Oct 2004, Dominic Hargreaves <dom(a)earth.li> wrote: > > Reminder: If you could release an OpenGuides at some point soon that > > would be great. > > Was going to last night, but there's a failing test - can you fix it > and let me know? Assuming you meant: t/21_rdf............................NOK 4# Failed test (t/21_rdf.t at line 62) It looks like this is something that Earle broke (and didn't put in Changes...) RCS file: /var/lib/cvs/grubclone/lib/OpenGuides/RDF.pm,v Working file: lib/OpenGuides/RDF.pm [snip] description: ---------------------------- revision 1.17 date: 2004-10-05 00:04:33 +0000; author: earle; state: Exp; lines: +1 -1 fix use of wn:Neighborhood (as mentioned at http://rdfig.xmlhack.com/2004/10/04/2004-10-04.html) Earle, can you do the honours? Dominic.

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Re: [OpenGuides-Dev] RFC: OpenGuides/CGI::Wiki (Wiki::Toolkit!)Hackfest
by David Cantrell 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 05:44:31PM +1000, brian quinn wrote: > Hi, I am intrigued by your mention of geo and Phone stuff and library > hackage. What's that mean? anything to do with phone numbers interests me, and geographic data also. The Openguides- and Wiki-specific bits of OG don't interest me at all, but anything they use which can be made more generally useful is something I might be interested in hacking on. > Are you interested in stuff like > http://symbianos.org/index.php?nav=projects_7 Given that I don't have a Symbian phone - no :-) > Can you have a wiki on a mobile phone? Openguide on mobile nets? That's a simple matter of providing an interface so that mobile users can conveniently interact with the server. Probably more useful would be a downloadable stand-alone app people could install on their PDA and use as a read-only openguides. -- David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information The test of the goodness of a thing is its fitness for use. If it fails on this first test, no amount of ornamentation or finish will make it any better, it will only make it more expensive and foolish. -- Frank Pick, lecture to the Design and Industries Assoc, 1916

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[OpenGuides-Dev] GeoCache.pm
by Dominic Hargreaves 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

Earle, I saw on the dev wiki <http://openguides.org/dev/?node=Earle's%20To-Do> that you want to move it. But why does it need to exist at all? It can be done entirely within the templates: [% IF latitude AND longitude %] <a href="http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?origin_lat=[% latitude %]&origin_long=[% longitude %]">Look for nearby geocaches</a> [% END %] Cheers, Dominic.

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Fw: Images on St Paul's Cathedral London Openguides node
by IvorW 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

I have sent the reply below to a contributor regarding copyright and images. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivor Williams" <ivorw-openguides(a)xemaps.com> To: <jf2g-5smj(a)spamex.com> Sent: 06 October 2004 00:26 Subject: Re: Images on St Paul's Cathedral London Openguides node > > > > Hi Ivor. > > > > I note you've removed the photo I linked in for this page (you'll need > > to remove it from Millenium Bridge too). However, I'm not clear on the > > basis of the change. I see you also modified the Wiki Etiquette to > > discuss this. > > > > Problem is, I see no reason that this image causes any problems. It is > > linked with an <img> tag rather than copied somewhere else. If the > > owner of the original image doesn't want it linked from elsewhere, there > > are simple technical measures that can be taken to prevent it. > > > > So can you explain your rationale here? > > The reason for this change is owing to the statements on the source website Urban75 > which should be self evident. > > see http://www.urban75.com/copy.html > > In my view, the guidelines for use of this image are not compatible with the Creative > Commons Licence that applies to the Open Guide to London. see: > > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/1.0/ > > If you are connected with the Urban75 website and are giving permission for the > London OpenGuide to use the picture, this is fine. If this is the case, the picture can be > reinstated without a problem, and you should add some text to this effect. > > Hope this clarifies matters. I am forwarding a copy of this email to the London > Openguides mailing list (http://openguides.org/mm/listinfo/openguides-london), > where you will be able to see and/or contribute to any further > discussion. > > Ivor.

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[OpenGuides-Dev] RFC: OpenGuides/CGI::Wiki (Wiki::Toolkit!) Hackfest
by Earle Martin 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

The idea of a hackfest was mooted at the recent London.pm social. Topics for the session: - Munging CGI::Wiki into Wiki::Toolkit. - General OpenGuides hackery. The venue would be my place, unless someone has an objection - bandwidth in both wireless and wired varieties is available. We would get food (pizza?). Date - probably a Sunday. Some time soon. Who's up for it? -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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