OpenGuides-Dev September 2004

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[OpenGuides-Dev] GeoCache.pm
by Dominic Hargreaves 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

Earle, I saw on the dev wiki <http://openguides.org/dev/?node=Earle's%20To-Do> that you want to move it. But why does it need to exist at all? It can be done entirely within the templates: [% IF latitude AND longitude %] <a href="http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?origin_lat=[% latitude %]&origin_long=[% longitude %]">Look for nearby geocaches</a> [% END %] Cheers, Dominic.

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Debian repository for OpenGuides
by Dominic Hargreaves 10 Oct '04

10 Oct '04

Hi, I've packaged the dependencies for OpenGuides that weren't already in Debian (testing/unstable). You can make use of an apt repository of them by putting the line deb http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/debian/openguides/ unstable/ in /etc/apt/sources.list. OpenGuides itself isn't yet packaged, but I will be working on preparing a package of it in the next week or so. In the meantime, you should find that everything else should be available, so I would be grateful if Debian users running sarge or sid could test these packages. The following command should result in all dependencies of OpenGuides (0.41) being installed: # apt-get update # apt-get install libdbd-pg-perl # OR # apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl # OR # apt-get install libdbd-sqlite-perl # apt-get install libalgorithm-diff-perl libcgi-wiki-perl \ libcgi-wiki-formatter-usemod-perl libcgi-wiki-plugin-categoriser-perl \ libcgi-wiki-plugin-diff-perl libcgi-wiki-plugin-geocache-perl \ libcgi-wiki-plugin-locator-uk-perl libcgi-wiki-plugin-rss-modwiki-perl \ libcgi-wiki-plugin-rss-reader-perl libconfig-tiny-perl libfile-spec-perl \ libgeography-nationalgrid-perl libwww-perl libmodule-build-perl \ libparse-recdescent-perl libsearch-invertedindex-perl libtemplate-perl \ libtest-mockobject-perl libtime-piece-perl liburi-perl libxml-rss-perl Once you have done this you should be able to download OpenGuides and manually install it by following the instructions in INSTALL. This testing is best done on a vanilla sarge/sid system, but especially one that hasn't had any openguides-related stuff installed on it before. Comments welcome, either to the list or me personally. You can if you wish add to http://openguides.org/dev/?node=Debian%20Package%20Bug%20Tracking but if you do please email me to let me know you have done so. Have fun! Dominic.

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Front page recent changes box
by Earle Martin 28 Sep '04

28 Sep '04

After some discussion on the #openguides IRC channel.... It has been noted recently that OpenGuides front pages are often very cluttered. Kake suggested, and I agree, that the recent changes box should be slimmed down as follows: 1) Collapse multiple instances of any given node to just one. 2) Only show node names, not change summary or editor. The actual details off the change are best left on the actual Recent Changes page (which is a "geek thing"). So, in effect, it would be "ten most recently modified nodes" (or maybe five?). Comments? -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] New openguide (Chester)
by David Ford 27 Sep '04

27 Sep '04

Hi, Over the last couple of weeks, I've been setting up an Open Guide for Chester, which is located at http://chesterguide.org.uk Obviously it doesn't have much content on it yet, but hopefully that will come once people know about it. If anyone spots any problems (dead links etc.) I'd be grateful if they could let me know. Thanks David

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[OpenGuides-Dev] nwe project
by Martín Hernán Ferrari 21 Sep '04

21 Sep '04

Hi! I'm planning on starting a openguide for the Buenos Aires city (Argentina). I already have a draft (http://guiaba.mine.nu/cgi-bin/openguides/og), but I have some doubts and I want to share them with you: I'm concerned about language. I hope the guide to be used for locals and visitors, but specially for locals. So, english doesn't seem to be a good option. But: all the other pages in openguides are in english, including Oslo's; and the software doesn't seem to suppor multi-language. I'm not really convinced on using openguides as a platform, since the only features I see which gave me some advantage over other wiki engines are categories and locales (which can be implemented with some hack), and they aren't trated in a special way, it is the same if I put a link at the bottom of the page The rest of metadata doesn't seem to be used except to be shown in the same page (the coordinates system can't be used, since i'm outside the uk). Another important fact is that it is too slow withour mod_perl.. is there any provision for running under it? I don't want to be a flamer, just those are questions that arose when starting this project (which I had in mind before knowing openguides), and may be someone can help me....

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Search engines and edit/delete pages
by James Green 20 Sep '04

20 Sep '04

Hiya. It occurs to me that there's very little point in search engines crawling certain pages of an OpenGuide - anything with "action=edit" or "action=delete" in the URL, at the very least, has no real value to someone searching for information. Unfortunately, unless I'm missing something, robots.txt syntax doesn't allow for matching on anything other than the start of the path component of a URL, which doesn't help us here. It's been suggested to me that ``<meta robots="noindex">'' tags in the <head> of a page are effective here, but I'm not sure of the best way to implement this for edit pages without implementing it for *all* pages, which would be careless. I'm thinking of something in header.tt conditional upon the requested URI containing "action=edit" or "action=delete", but before I wander off learning how to talk template::toolkit, I'd be interested to hear better suggestions -- and other values of action we might care about, I guess. The other, more complex but possibly "better" alternative, would be for someone to run with the idea mooted in this thread: <http://openguides.org/mail/openguides-dev/2004-April/000258.html> Then edit pages could be /edit/Node_Name, deletes /delete/Node_Name, and so on. This makes setting up a suitable robots.txt very simple indeed, though it makes setting up the Apache rewrite rules a) a requirement, instead of just a nice thing, and b) more complex than at present. Thoughts, comments, suggestions and the like all invited. Cheers, James. -- PGP fingerprint 3E85 0C7A FE11 42E9 A599 094D AE16 90F0 81AE 16FF, ID 81AE16FF Fremen add life to spice!

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[OpenGuides-Dev] SVG on Mac OS X
by Kake L Pugh 19 Sep '04

19 Sep '04

[Crossposted: openguides-dev and london.pm] This is a call for help to anyone interested in OpenGuides or just feeling randomly helpful. A long time ago I wrote a thing to map an OpenGuide in SVG. It was cute. Since then I've swapped laptops and so I no longer have a browser that can display SVG. I would like to do more cute things with SVG, but I'm not going to get around to it unless I can actually see what I'm doing. So what I want from someone out there is foolproof instructions for viewing SVG in a browser - any browser that I don't have to pay for - on OS X. Thank you, sleep well, drink tea. Kake

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Suggestion for backlinks
by Earle Martin 19 Sep '04

19 Sep '04

At present, clicking a page's title will get you a list of backlinks. It would be useful if this listing included pages redirecting to the page as well, although I'm not sure if that would require additional stuff in the database. At that point, the list could then include backlinks to the redirecting page as well. -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Fantastic new OpenGuides release
by Kake L Pugh 18 Sep '04

18 Sep '04

I just released 0.40 - I'm really happy with this release. I divided up the Recent Changes better, and also added RSS feeds for contributors, locales and categories. Previews running on London data: http://london.openguides.org/kakemirror/index.cgi?RecentChanges http://london.openguides.org/kakemirror/index.cgi?action=rss;username=Kake http://london.openguides.org/kakemirror/index.cgi?action=rss;category=pubs Kake

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[OpenGuides-Dev] OpenGuides 0.39 released, and London mirror
by Kake L Pugh 15 Sep '04

15 Sep '04

----- Forwarded message from PAUSE <upload(a)pause.perl.org> ----- The URL http://the.earth.li/~kake/code/OpenGuides-0.39.tar.gz has entered CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/K/KA/KAKE/OpenGuides-0.39.tar.gz ----- End forwarded message ----- 0.39 offers the option of using Plucene for indexing. Note that you will need to have CGI::Wiki 0.56 and Plucene installed if you want to do this. I recommend that any Guide admins who've had trouble with Search::InvertedIndex error messages ("cannot remove index from group", "corrupted database", that sort of thing) use Plucene instead. I have set up a mirror of the London openguide on un.earth.li - URL path is /~kake/cgi-bin/oglmirror/index.cgi (URL broken up on purpose since I am in a rush and don't have time to stop Google indexing it). This mirror is running on the Plucene backend, the latest OpenGuides release, and the standard templates. I did this because I'm fed up of having to use the older buggy versions of OpenGuides that london.openguides.org runs (note this is NOT meant as a whinge, I know Earle is busy, I'm just explaining why I did it). Earle, would you be OK with me running such a mirror on openguides.org itself so I have an alternative interface to the actual data as opposed to just a copy (database dump)? Kake (rushed)

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