hello,
now that our encoding troubles are solved, newbies are filling out lots of funny stuff under: "Locale"
translated: "Relax", "Friendly", "Loose time"..
how can "Locale" be localized, for our german reader/user we would need to use "Gebiet".
i mean grepping the templates and changing there, wont be enough i guess.
thanks for your input. maks
ps domm told me that there has been some activity about image upload, is there any code we can test? (it's the first question we get asked, as nearly every geek has it's portable digi cam)
On Wed 06 Apr 2005, maximilian attems maks@sternwelten.at wrote:
how can "Locale" be localized, for our german reader/user we would need to use "Gebiet".
I did some work on this a while back; I'll dig it out after my house move - can you poke me after the 18th?
i mean grepping the templates and changing there, wont be enough i guess.
It could work as a temporary fix.
ps domm told me that there has been some activity about image upload, is there any code we can test? (it's the first question we get asked, as nearly every geek has it's portable digi cam)
I've not been and will not be working on this. There's plenty of photo hosting sites out there already, and the argument that they're all in danger of disappearing unexpectedly does not convince me.
Kake
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005, Kake L Pugh wrote:
On Wed 06 Apr 2005, maximilian attems maks@sternwelten.at wrote:
how can "Locale" be localized, for our german reader/user we would need to use "Gebiet".
I did some work on this a while back; I'll dig it out after my house move - can you poke me after the 18th?
ok, will do. thanks :)
i mean grepping the templates and changing there, wont be enough i guess.
It could work as a temporary fix.
hehe, yes but not for the automated generated stubs Locale_foo
ps domm told me that there has been some activity about image upload, is there any code we can test? (it's the first question we get asked, as nearly every geek has it's portable digi cam)
I've not been and will not be working on this. There's plenty of photo hosting sites out there already, and the argument that they're all in danger of disappearing unexpectedly does not convince me.
Kake
well ease of use comes to my mind. anyway it's not urgent.
-- maks
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005, Kake L Pugh wrote:
I've not been and will not be working on this. There's plenty of photo hosting sites out there already, and the argument that they're all in danger of disappearing unexpectedly does not convince me.
On Wed 06 Apr 2005, maximilian attems maks@sternwelten.at wrote:
well ease of use comes to my mind.
You could define a macro to make it easy to link to a given image on a given photo gallery site, if you picked one that had easily-generated URLs.
Kake
Hi!
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 04:21:55PM +0100, Kake L Pugh wrote:
You could define a macro to make it easy to link to a given image on a given photo gallery site, if you picked one that had easily-generated URLs.
So including a photo upload tool to openguides won't happen? Even if someone sends a patch?
So including a photo upload tool to openguides won't happen? Even if
someone
sends a patch?
To be honest, I barely see the point. Is it that much of a pain to sign up for a free image hosting site (such as photobucket) and include an image tag?
I'd also rather the free sites host them rather than me having all my bandwidth being eaten up by constant downloading of images.
Clair
On Wed 06 Apr 2005, Clair clair@nimoll.co.uk wrote:
I'd also rather the free sites host them rather than me having all my bandwidth being eaten up by constant downloading of images.
It should definitely be configurable, so an admin can turn the facility on or off, for this very reason.
Kake
On Apr 6, 2005 7:55 PM, Clair clair@nimoll.co.uk wrote:
To be honest, I barely see the point. Is it that much of a pain to sign up for a free image hosting site (such as photobucket) and include an image tag?
The only issue is preserving those images if the account is closed, the hosting site goes away, etc. Do we see the images as less valuable content?
A.
On Wed 06 Apr 2005, Adam Auden adam.auden@gmail.com wrote:
The only issue is preserving those images if the account is closed, the hosting site goes away, etc.
I was seeing it as the admin of a given guide picks a stable hosting site and then opens an (eg) "openguides-leicester" account.
Kake
On Apr 6, 2005 8:09 PM, Kake L Pugh kake@earth.li wrote:
I was seeing it as the admin of a given guide picks a stable hosting site and then opens an (eg) "openguides-leicester" account.
Ah, rather than submissions being hosted on peoples own accounts, yes much more sensible.
A.
Je 2005-04-06 20:09:52 +0100, Kake L Pugh skribis:
On Wed 06 Apr 2005, Adam Auden adam.auden@gmail.com wrote:
The only issue is preserving those images if the account is closed, the hosting site goes away, etc.
I was seeing it as the admin of a given guide picks a stable hosting site and then opens an (eg) "openguides-leicester" account.
How about OG providing a consistent upload interface to OG and the OG backend shuffles the photo off to an openguides-wherever account, replacing the URL with whatever comes back from the 3rd party provider? That way a fresh OG provider need only set up a single such account and end-users need be none the wiser.
You could even then take it into the realm of partnering/sponsoring/affiliates.
Paul
On Mon 11 Apr 2005, Paul Makepeace openguides.org@paulm.com wrote:
How about OG providing a consistent upload interface to OG and the OG backend shuffles the photo off to an openguides-wherever account, replacing the URL with whatever comes back from the 3rd party provider?
That way would require programming, and people willing to program for OpenGuides seem to be in short supply. It's a good idea apart from that, though.
Kake
Je 2005-04-11 13:15:47 +0100, Kake L Pugh skribis:
On Mon 11 Apr 2005, Paul Makepeace openguides.org@paulm.com wrote:
How about OG providing a consistent upload interface to OG and the OG backend shuffles the photo off to an openguides-wherever account, replacing the URL with whatever comes back from the 3rd party provider?
That way would require programming,
Don't you hate those kind of suggestions on -dev lists? D'oh :-)
Good luck recruiting!
Paul
and people willing to program for OpenGuides seem to be in short supply. It's a good idea apart from that, though.
Kake
Kake L Pugh said:
On Mon 11 Apr 2005, Paul Makepeace openguides.org@paulm.com wrote:
How about OG providing a consistent upload interface to OG and the OG backend shuffles the photo off to an openguides-wherever account, replacing the URL with whatever comes back from the 3rd party provider?
That way would require programming, and people willing to program for OpenGuides seem to be in short supply. It's a good idea apart from that, though.
Well, I'm willing to program for Openguides - the problem being that CGI::Wiki and Perl in general is, well, confusing. So if anyone is happy to hold my hand along the way, I'd be willing to do small hacks.
Clair
On Mon 11 Apr 2005, Clair clair@nimoll.co.uk wrote:
Well, I'm willing to program for Openguides - the problem being that CGI::Wiki and Perl in general is, well, confusing. So if anyone is happy to hold my hand along the way, I'd be willing to do small hacks.
I remember this suggestion of Joe's looked like a very good first project to me: http://openguides.org/mail/openguides-dev/2004-November/000671.html
It would get you into the UI, the metadata, and the searching, all in one neat little project. I'm happy to do the hand-holding if this looks like something you'd be interested in.
Kake
On Wed 06 Apr 2005, Thomas Klausner domm@zsi.at wrote:
So including a photo upload tool to openguides won't happen? Even if someone sends a patch?
If someone else does the work then I see no reason why it can't go in. I'm just saying that I won't be doing it.
Kake
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 07:58:09PM +0100, Kake L Pugh wrote:
On Wed 06 Apr 2005, Thomas Klausner domm@zsi.at wrote:
So including a photo upload tool to openguides won't happen? Even if someone sends a patch?
If someone else does the work then I see no reason why it can't go in. I'm just saying that I won't be doing it.
I'd like to see a basic image hosting facility in OG. This would mean that we could have full control over resizing, and keep copies of the originals for possible print distribution. I am offering photo hosting for the Oxford Guide at the moment, described at http://www.ox.compsoc.net/oxfordguide/?Photo_Policy which is currently completely manual (well, I have a tiny script which resizes the photos and spits out some template HTML).
That said, it's probably not top of the list of my priorities for openguides, and even if it were -- well, I'm not managing to do much with OG at the moment anyway :)
Cheers,
hello,
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 07:58:09PM +0100, Kake L Pugh wrote:
If someone else does the work then I see no reason why it can't go in. I'm just saying that I won't be doing it.
i wrote a fairly lame CGI/Wiki/Plugin/Upload.pm earlier this year. it worked for me, but i wasn't running it on a public site and would hesitate to do so without an email-verification loop in place for user logins.... which may well be overkill.
http://frot.org/Upload.pm <- almost nothing to it really. oh, i had to hack Openguides::Config a little bit to let me add extra config parameters for a file store location. this is the sort of thing that means i never submit decent patches :/
zx
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 03:02:09PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
how can "Locale" be localized, for our german reader/user we would need to use "Gebiet".
The answer to this is that it shouldn't be localized at all [0]. See http://openguides.org/mail/openguides-dev/2004-May/000295.html for more on this.
Yes, I realise that that now dates almost a full year old, including the comment that says "I can look into it"! Sorry. I'm currently considering shortening the list of points from that email to:
1) Warn the users - i.e. all known admins. 2) Remove any mention of "Locale" in a page title from the code. 3) Everyone fixes everything by hand, the good old-fashioned way. Really. The only place that will need a bunch of work will be London, and there are a few of us who can do it - I am of course volunteering. It can be gradual too.
Thoughts? Please - I think this is important.
[0] For the most part, except in just a couple of templates where you can replace it with "area".
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