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Quick straw poll for guide admins
by Dominic Hargreaves 19 Jan '06

19 Jan '06

Can those running a guide let me know (on or off-list as preferred) what their guide settings are for: geo_handler ellipsoid as I'm trying to judge how best to integrate/release some of the Google maps stuff that was merged last month. Cheers, Dominic. -- Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/ PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email)

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The Open Guide to Derby
by Stephen White 15 Jan '06

15 Jan '06

Kerry Bosworth and I have started an Open Guide for Derby, found at: http://derby.randomstuff.org.uk/ It is currently lacking pretty CSS, which I will add in time, and only has a few entries so far, but I think it is at a reasonable point to open to the world at large. Unless there is anything else that you feel should be done first, please could the guide be added to the list of available guides on openguides.org. The server hosting it should be configured to accept requests for http://derby.openguides.org/ and/or http://derby.uk.openguides.org/ (as per a recent thread on this mailing list), if the hostmaster would be kind enough to CNAME one (or both) of these to 'derby.randomstuff.org.uk.' - whatever is appropriate under the current policy - that would be good. -- Stephen White

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Re: [OGDev] Using trac and svn for other OpenGuides modules
by Dominic Hargreaves 07 Jan '06

07 Jan '06

On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 07:51:51AM -0500, IvorW wrote: > This has set me thinking, that we maybe we should have all the subsidiary modules in subversion also. > > ... ant managed by trac. Why not? > > Can trac operate with multiple subversion repositories at different addresses or does it have to be under one roof (which may be a better idea anyway)? The latter. Perhaps we could have an OpenGuides::* in the openguides trac/repo and CGI::Wiki::* in a new cgi-wiki trac/repo? What's the maintenance status of CGI::Wiki these days? ISTR it's still Kake's but I've not seen any activity on it for a long time. Cheers, Dominic. -- Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/ PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email)

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The Open Guide to Derby
by Stephen White 01 Jan '06

01 Jan '06

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Wiki spam: fighting back
by IvorW 27 Dec '05

27 Dec '05

This may be old hat, but what do people think? http://chongqed.org/

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newbie install problems
by Graham Seaman 25 Dec '05

25 Dec '05

Hi all, Not having used openguides before I'm trying to work my way through the long chain of cpan dependencies and have got stuck with CGI::Wiki. I'm getting the error messages reported on http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/269669 which are all from trying to write nodes with no contents. As far as I can see from the CGI::Wiki documentation this is required behaviour, so it looks like I need to find a fix for it. In an initial fit of optimism I thought I'd try to track down where the problem was originating from, but I've got lost. I assume Text::Wikiformat is being invoked through the format() routine, but I've failed miserably at following the tangled route from $wiki->write_node() to format(). Has anyone got any further, or found a way round this? I did mail chromatic to ask him if he had any ideas, but he (very reasonably) suggested I provide a clear test case first (though he also said he might look at it in the next few days). Thanks Graham

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Google Maps on my London mirror site
by IvorW 25 Dec '05

25 Dec '05

Well done Dom and Chris for getting Google Maps integrated into OG svn. I've found a few things missing, and I will be committing when the list is complete. I'm trying to use this to set up a mirror of OGLondon with the map of all points. URL is http://www.nurflax.net/cgi-bin/openguides/wiki.cgi?action=index;format=map But it's not working :(. I've gone on to Google to register account, and requested an API key for http://www.nurflax.net/cgi-bin/openguides/, which I have installed. (at no point did google ask me for my account email address). The page source looks OK, but no map is being displayed. Viewing the page source looks OK compared with the Oxford one. Any suggestions? If anyone would like to help, I can give you access to a shell account - drop me a line on IRC if you need this. Merry Christmas all, Ivor.

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[Fwd: CPAN Upload: I/IV/IVORW/OpenGuides-RDF-Reader-0.05.tar.gz]
by IvorW 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

This fixes a bug in the og_mirror script, where local coordinates were not being set in the database. This prevented find_within_distance from working. Thanks to Jody for pointing this bug out to me. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: CPAN Upload: I/IV/IVORW/OpenGuides-RDF-Reader-0.05.tar.gz Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 01:50:47 +0100 From: PAUSE <upload(a)pause.perl.org> Reply-To: 48mn-wuei(a)spamex.com To: Ivor Williams <6bed-rgew(a)spamex.com> The uploaded file OpenGuides-RDF-Reader-0.05.tar.gz has entered CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/I/IV/IVORW/OpenGuides-RDF-Reader-0.05.tar.gz size: 12019 bytes md5: 62663a6e356de3c0afbeb0c8e1d4e270 No action is required on your part Request entered by: IVORW (Ivor Williams) Request entered on: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 00:48:32 GMT Request completed: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 00:50:45 GMT Thanks, -- paused, v460

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Marketing to OG Admins
by crschmidt＠crschmidt.net 18 Dec '05

18 Dec '05

I've seen a lot more activity in OpenGuides in the past month than I have in the 6 before that, so I think that maybe we're looking at a good time to take advantage of the energy that people have been putting forth to the guides aspect and turn some of it away from technical matters and to the more social matters that I feel may be blocking some uptake of OpenGuides. * Lack of stylesheet. Perigrin and I have stolen stylesheets back and forth for a while now, and have something that is a pretty basic, but still useful, stylesheet. Including this stylesheet, with some recommendations as to how to change it, would be easy and would make a huge difference to the first result you get when setting up a guide. * Ardurous Installation I personally find setting up a guide to be a non-trivial task. I'm getting used to it now - with Milton Keynes, it only took about 20 minutes total to get everything up and running - but the biggest reason for that is that the OG packages are already installed for Boston. Many users don't have the ability to install systemwide perl modules, and users like me who don't know perl don't know how to set up the guide to point to a local directory. I think that a self-contained package for OG including all the perl modules which the app needs, and a preset use lib() pointing to a relative directory, would be the most useful thing that OG could do to ease installation. I suppose this might get relatively ridiculous: You can require that easy to install or commonly installed packages are already taken care of, but documenting these dependancies could go a long way towards at least letting people know if they could install OG. I don't know if this is realistic or not, but I know that I do not find installing OpenGuides to be easy, nor is maintaining two seperate copies of the libraries (for Boston and Milton Keynes: I have a number of boston specific changes) to be something that I know how to do. If there is a way to make it such that OG can be installed by anyone with FTP and MySQL access, without any need for a shell account or CPAN, given a list of perl modules that they already have, and that seperate instances can be maintained for multiple guides, I think that it would be more commonly installed by guide admins and more commonly tested as well. If you can provide a nightly build that someone can just upload with a hand edited wiki.conf, you'll probably see more people able to test the changes without risking breaking their current guide. * Reaching out Globally Right now, OpenGuides feels very much like a UK-centric project. Dom is doing work to correct this, learning about projections and so on. I think that once we have cleaned up some of the Euro-centric aspects of openguides (and made clear some of the Geo aspects that are confusing at the moment), a good goal would be to reach out to other global users and try and find guide admins. With an easier setup process or the offer to host a guide for them, a number of users may be willing to support a wiki-guide to their city, especially in the absense of other similar services in the area. It would be interesting to see, for example, the Open Guide to Sydney - perhaps even hosting it with a current OGDev member as admin, and then trying to pimp it to sydney locals, thus skipping the setup step. * Whizbang features I think that some features could be shortlisted for adding to the whizbang effect of OpenGuides: * Google Maps support * New Data Format support - I'm thinking something along the lines of providing JSON data interface as well as RDF, to possibly improve the integration with other web or non-web applications. (I've already implemented a JSON export of Boston, via http://boston.openguides.org/?id=Central_Square_Station;action=edit;format=… , which I'm using to write a Python commandline client.) I don't know what else is considered Whizbang, but I think those could be neat to take advantage of some of the "OMG AJAX" movement going on in the web world today. Just some ideas that I had as I was chatting with Dom on IRC, and thought I'd toss them out before I lost them again. -- Christopher Schmidt Open Guide to Boston http://boston.openguides.org/

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Wikipedia locks down page creation against anonymous users
by IvorW 12 Dec '05

12 Dec '05

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1661693,00.html?gusrc=…

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