OpenGuides-Dev March 2004

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[OpenGuides-Dev] A similar effort
by Earle Martin 22 Apr '04

22 Apr '04

I just discovered an interesting project called "Add Your Own": http://www.addyourown.com/ It's a wiki restaurant review system! They even have a rudimentary metadata system for locations and restaurant types. Is it worth us plugging the OG system to them? One interesting thing their site does that ours doesn't is a summary view: http://www.addyourown.com/neighborhood.php?nbh_id=13 I think this is a smart innovation. It would be nice to be able to do that for a given category - see a list of all the nodes, with selected metadata fields, in a tabular format. Maybe this is something I should have a go at, since it's long overdue that I contributed some more code. Ha! Someone's already mentioned us to them! Fantastic. http://www.quicktopic.com/23/H/3pd3JmL66G6/p6.1 -- # Earle Martin http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?EarleMartin $a="f695a9a2176a7dd1618af6649896ee10f05ea986de18af6277e9a1d8ef4696644569a1d". "8ef46961ae1e64277e9896eea7d92ea8003e9a1d8ef4696f6950";$b="8ALB6AIA4.BA2";$c= join"",unpack"C*",$b;$c=~s/7/2/g;@b=split"",$c;foreach$d(@b){$e=hex(substr($a ,$f,$d));while(length($e)<8){substr($e,0,0)=0;}print pack"b8",$e;$f+=$d;}

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Another OpenGuides-powered site found
by Earle Martin 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

Just came across this: http://www.lardclub.org.uk/wiki.cgi -- Earle Martin hex on irc.perl.org http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Open guide to Sheffield
by Suzi Wells 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

I'd be interested in setting up an open guide to Sheffield, or at least trying to. Think I can find a few people who would contribute from the start. What would I need to do? Cheers -Suzi ___________________________________________________________ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes

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[OpenGuides-Dev] More changes for 0.31
by Earle Martin 26 Mar '04

26 Mar '04

>From "Changes": Numerous template tweaks to comply with the W3C's Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/): - summaries for all HTML tables - labels for all form input elements and some textual additions to templates, such as '/' separators between navbar items, because the guidelines specify links should not only be separated by whitespace. If you don't want these to appear, put the following in your stylesheet and they'll be hidden by CSS (but will still appear for people using textual browsers or screen readers): ".hidden { display: none }". - the "lang" element (a two-letter code identifying the language you're writing pages in) will now be added to the <html> tag on all pages; a new question has been added to the configuration script to ask for it and it will be stored in wiki.conf. *** YOU WILL NEED TO RUN BUILD.PL AGAIN. *** *** Remember to keep a backup copy of your old wiki.conf! *** Improved navigation for search results (next and previous n hits). Removed underscores from page names in search results. Please test if you can. -- Earle Martin hex on irc.perl.org http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] RDF Overhaul
by Earle Martin 22 Mar '04

22 Mar '04

>From "Changes": Overhauled RDF output. Changes: - everything is no longer classified as a restaurant(!) - empty tags are no longer generated - switch to W3C contact namespace for addressing data - move homepage tag out of wiki metadata - logical structure improvements (subjects of pages are now identified as spatial things instead of being anonymous FOAF topics). Examples... Before: http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?id=Hen%20And%20Chickens%2C%20N1%202N… After: http://un.earth.li/~earle/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi?id=Example%20Node;format=rdf Now in CVS on un, please test. -- Earle Martin hex on irc.perl.org http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] OpenGuides and GPSter
by Earle Martin 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

I've CC'ed this to the OpenGuides developers' list so people can comment. On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 03:45:02PM -0800, karlis wrote: > I think the best way to do this would be some GPSter-ish API for the > openguides code so that user clients can poll openguides directly. Each > city maintains it's own database/wiki/site? Yes, that's right. Some of them live on the same machine, but most don't. > Are they linked in any other way, codewise, ie, is there a coordinated > list of operating openguide installations? At the moment, no. It would be a nice feature, I think, to have something like the InterMap (http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?InterMap) idea so you could say "blah blah the [Paris:Arc De Triomphe]", or something like that, probably located on openguides.org that could be polled for updates. > What's the minimum location info that each node will have? Postal code? The minimum is actually zero - there are no mandated fields, because not every node is actually geospatial in topic. > How do the queries like "Things within 500 metres of Piccadilly Circus > Station" work at the data level? > > GPSter is really based on lat/lon coordinates (as the name might > suggest), so the key would be the translation of openguide nodes into > lat/lon positions. After that, moving the data around is easy. At the moment, that's done by making calculations based on Ordnance Survey coordinates that have been entered for the nodes, because that system defines a convenient grid that's easier to manipulate for those calculations than lat/lon figures - none of this tricky business with oblate spheroids. We're very aware that this is proprietary to the UK, though, and are looking into ways to replace it. In the last day or two, someone brought the UTM system to my attention, and it seems to be a very good candidate (http://search.cpan.org/~grahamc/Geo-Coordinates-UTM-0.03/UTM.pm). > There doesn't seem to be a "click on the map" style interface for > locating stuff. Not yet, no, partially because of the insane cost of map data for this country (for example: http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/products/10kraster/pricing.html). We'd be very interested in having a map interface. Ivor Williams (who'll read this on the list) is looking into doing visualisations of the stuff in an OpenGuides database. > Are there any north american projects similar to openguides, or is this > just very new? Well, we've been around a couple of years but people have only started contacting us and making their own sites around the world for the last few months. There's a newborn OG install for San Francisco as of the other week (http://sf.openguides.org/). Similar projects I know of are Wikitravel (http://www.wikitravel.org/) and World66 (http://www.world66.com/), but they're not particularly North American. There's also a New York restaurant guide thing that's fairly similar in idea, but I'm damned if I can find it right now. Best, Earle. -- Earle Martin hex on irc.perl.org http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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RE: [OpenGuides-Dev] non-UK openguides
by IvorW 12 Mar '04

12 Mar '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: openguides-dev-bounces(a)openguides.org > [mailto:openguides-dev-bounces@openguides.org]On Behalf Of jo walsh > Sent: 11 March 2004 10:13 > To: openguides-dev(a)openguides.org > Subject: [OpenGuides-Dev] non-UK openguides > > > > hi again, > > as briefly mentioned on irc we'd like to set up an open guide to san > francisco. i wonder what the oslo people did to de-UK-ify > their openguides > - just delete the OSX and Y fields from their template? > > the openguides we ran at etcon not really for geographic purposes i > did fix up to accept UTM and convert back and forth between > lat and long > (and OS numbering is just a UTM coordinate with a digit > missing i learned) > also i was thinking of plugging in a geocoder to generate lat and long > from street addresses - e.g. > http://headmap.org/geocoder/geolookup.cgi - > postcode boundaries being very large here. > > is anyone else looking at that, i could try and assemble these changes > into a patch but they were a bit messy and should be config options... Sounds like I need to pull my finger out and write the Geography::Grid module I have been meaning to write. I think I've got the tuits to do this in non-work time at the moment. I should also write this up as a hack once I've done it. Ivor.

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[OpenGuides-Dev] non-UK openguides
by jo walsh 11 Mar '04

11 Mar '04

hi again, as briefly mentioned on irc we'd like to set up an open guide to san francisco. i wonder what the oslo people did to de-UK-ify their openguides - just delete the OSX and Y fields from their template? the openguides we ran at etcon not really for geographic purposes i did fix up to accept UTM and convert back and forth between lat and long (and OS numbering is just a UTM coordinate with a digit missing i learned) also i was thinking of plugging in a geocoder to generate lat and long from street addresses - e.g. http://headmap.org/geocoder/geolookup.cgi - postcode boundaries being very large here. is anyone else looking at that, i could try and assemble these changes into a patch but they were a bit messy and should be config options... jo -- "Common sense won't tell you. We have to tell each other." -DNA

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Making maps of your OpenGuide
by jo walsh 11 Mar '04

11 Mar '04

hi openguides, (hi ivor, i saw moblogged pictures of you talking about mapping openguides to the SVG people at http://moblog.nicecupoftea.org the other day. hope you enjoyed it... ) you might not know schuyler and rich are working on a 'mapping hacks' book from ORA and soliciting user contributions from the wild. there are three openguides hacks pencilled in to it, all of which have my name on them. i thought a/ ivor might like to write up his talk into a hack, the book doesnt have enough SVG in it, b/ kake might like to write a hack based on some of that perl.com article, including new features c/ i'm not really trying to palm it off onto other people, but reckon you would do it better than me if i could persuade you. a 'hack' is typically 1000-2000 words in length, and includes about 50 lines of interesting code, and is focused on getting a simple thing done. the list is at http://mappinghacks.com/cgi-bin/hacks.cgi jo -- "Common sense won't tell you. We have to tell each other." -DNA

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[OpenGuides-Dev] SVG users group
by IvorW 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

Last night I gave a talk at the London SVG Users Group on drawing maps for OpenGuides. http://un.earth.li/~ivorw/slides/ogmaps.ppt I have had feedback that it was well received, and I am contemplating giving a variant of the talk to London.pm. Hopefully I will be able to get some working demos ready for the talk :). Ivor.

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