Hello all,
After some tremendously productive sessions, the legacy of this weekend's conference that affects OpenGuides is that Evan Prodromou of Wikitravel and I will be working together to build a common geodata format for wikis (old news; but we have a much better idea of what's happening now, and we're going to hammer it out very soon, very quickly). This is going to live at a new site, WikiRDF.org, which will also be the new home for both my own Wiki Profile Vocabulary (which is going to feature as a component of a new search engine, Wixee.com - stay tuned for details), and the existing ModWiki specification for RSS 1.0 output for wikis (currently hosted on MeatballWiki).
In other news, today I learnt of a site called WikiSpot.org, which is aiming to be a directory of city-wikis. Perhaps our various admins would like to add details for their Guides?
Cheers,
Earle.
On 20/05/07, Earle Martin openguides@downlode.org wrote:
After some tremendously productive sessions, the legacy of this weekend's conference that affects OpenGuides is [stuff]...
Aaand, today I had some quality time talking shop with Mark Jaroski of the new project Wikevent.org, a wiki-based event calendar. We're going to work together to integrate our projects: OpenGuides will, where guides exist, provide the geographic listings for events on Wikevent to point to. This will become what the relationship with Evnt (evnt.org) was supposed to have been, eighteen months ago - but Evnt seems to have died a grisly death. So it goes. Anyway, things will be happening with us and Wikevent, so stay tuned.
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:35:20PM -0400, Earle Martin wrote:
Aaand, today I had some quality time talking shop with Mark Jaroski of the new project Wikevent.org, a wiki-based event calendar. We're going to work together to integrate our projects: OpenGuides will, where guides exist, provide the geographic listings for events on Wikevent to point to. This will become what the relationship with Evnt (evnt.org) was supposed to have been, eighteen months ago - but Evnt seems to have died a grisly death. So it goes. Anyway, things will be happening with us and Wikevent, so stay tuned.
This sounds interesting. How do you envisage OpenGuides doing this? Are code changes required or is this just a case of people using it for a different sort of data?
I think we should be careful not to try and cast too wide a net though; we still have a long way to go in making our geographical guide even better (but this may not be an issue if we know what your plans are for this integration).
Dominic.
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:35:20PM -0400, Earle Martin wrote:
Aaand, today I had some quality time talking shop with Mark Jaroski of the new project Wikevent.org, a wiki-based event calendar. We're going to work together to integrate our projects: OpenGuides will, where guides exist, provide the geographic listings for events on Wikevent to point to. This will become what the relationship with Evnt (evnt.org) was supposed to have been, eighteen months ago - but Evnt seems to have died a grisly death. So it goes. Anyway, things will be happening with us and Wikevent, so stay tuned.
You really really REALLY want to go both ways, so that the OG pages will link to the events happening at the venue as well. Oh no, I think I might be thinking of "trackbacks".
On 22/05/07, Dominic Hargreaves dom@earth.li wrote:
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:35:20PM -0400, Earle Martin wrote:
Aaand, today I had some quality time talking shop with Mark Jaroski of the new project Wikevent.org, a wiki-based event calendar. We're going to work together to integrate our projects [...]
This sounds interesting. How do you envisage OpenGuides doing this? Are code changes required or is this just a case of people using it for a different sort of data?
Something really trivial - we add* a new sort of feed/data output to list geographical things; they read it and link to us where we have relevant pages. Here's an example of what I'm talking about, dating from the earlier stuff with Evnt: http://london.openguides.org/data/geodata.txt
That's a CSV file**, but I'm thinking of other output formats too, including our sort of RDF, JSON, etc. Talking of JSON, I've been pointed to "Geo-JSON", which may be of interest to Kake, who I seem to recall was looking for something like that? A quick Google brings up this as the first interesting hit. http://zcologia.com/news/361/more-geo-json/
Plus, we can include their output; this is exactly why I wrote the RSS embedding macro. (Which still needs a bit of work to make the end result look better.) Mark's still working on the per-venue feeds, so no demo yet. But the idea is that, as Dave suggests, "the OG pages will link to the events happening at the venue as well".
It's early days yet, but the end result should be a beneficial one for both projects, and hopefully getting users to contribute data in both directions. Cool, n'est-ce pas?
* Yes, I'm volunteering for this, don't worry... ** Although it's actually tab-separated. Cue "hates-software" posts.
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