On Sunday 28 November 2004 09:22 pm, Kake L Pugh wrote:

On Sun 28 Nov 2004, Chris Prather chris@prather.org wrote:

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Currently the RDF view of a page doesn't give the current Categories or Locales.

Yes it does! eg http://london.openguides.org/?id=Whitgift_Centre%2C_Croydon;format=rdf

Ack! And now that I look again with less weary eyes, it is all there. However There are no links!

<geo:SpatialThing rdf:ID="obj" dc:title="Whitgift Centre, Croydon"> <!-- categories --> dc:subjectMalls</dc:subject> dc:subjectShopping</dc:subject>

<!-- address and geospatial data -->
<city>London</city>    <postalCode>CR0 1LP</postalCode>
<country>United Kingdom</country>

foaf:based_nearwn:Neighborhoodfoaf:nameCroydon</foaf:name></wn:Neighb orhood></foaf:based_near>

This is wonderful, but I'd like to have a few Links in there like:

<rdfs:seeAlso rdf:resource="http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?action=index;index_type=category;inde..." />

<rdfs:seeAlso rdf:resource="http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?action=index;index_type=category;inde..." />

and

<rdfs:seeAlso rdf:resource="http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?action=index;index_type=locale;index_..." />

in there, perhaps inside the wn:Neighborhood along with the foaf:name, it would make moving backwards from a specific node to it's containers easier to do programmatically.

However I could be going about this all wrong though too, there are aparently quite a few RDF people who actively listen to this list.

-Chris

I'm in Oz atm, but it's on my list to look at next week.

Libby

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Kake L Pugh wrote:

On Mon 29 Nov 2004, Chris Prather chris@prather.org wrote:

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This is wonderful, but I'd like to have a few Links in there like:

<rdfs:seeAlso rdf:resource="http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?action=index;index_type=category;inde..." /> [...] <rdfs:seeAlso rdf:resource="http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?action=index;index_type=locale;index_..." />

in there, perhaps inside the wn:Neighborhood along with the foaf:name, it would make moving backwards from a specific node to it's containers easier to do programmatically.

However I could be going about this all wrong though too, there are aparently quite a few RDF people who actively listen to this list.

Libby? zool? Is this the right way to do it?

Kake

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On Monday 29 November 2004 01:40 am, IvorW wrote:

Locales were already in there as "Neighborhood" tags. I requested categories to be put in, back in March this year, and they were as dc::subject tags.

see http://openguides.org/mail/openguides-dev/2004-March/000242.html

So Kake pointed out. My bad for totally missing them the first time.

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Having said that, isn't there a way to invert the process and get all the nodes in a Category or Locale via the RDF? I know zool asked about something like that at one point, and it could possibly have made it into the book.

This works already:

http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?action=index;index_type=category;ind ex_value=Bookshops;format=rdf

http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?action=index;index_type=locale;index _value=Acton;format=rdf

Should we put an Advanced How To page on http://openguides.org/dev ?

I knew that this should have existed, but didn't know how to find it. This information and things like @INDEX_LIST and @INDEX_LINK stuff are woefully under documented. Or perhaps I'm being blind again. I found a reference to @INDEX_LIST inside the Changes file, and again I knew it existed ... just not how it was spelt.

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The ultimate purpose of all of this is I'd like to create a little bot to do OpenGuides searches. Something like mudlondon, though not nearly as featureful. I just want something that will perform locative searches for me when I need a resturant to eat lunch at.

That would be cool! It could also aggregate the search over multiple OpenGuides if asked to.

Could do, but I need to figure out how to get it to work at all first :)

-Chris