30 Nov
2011
30 Nov
'11
11:44 p.m.
Hey folks!-
Just wanted to let you know that we've made the first real release for
the LocalWiki project. If you were into OpenGuides, you'll definitely
like LocalWiki:
http://localwiki.org/
Help us spread the word!
Best,
Philip
1 Dec
1 Dec
1:26 p.m.
On Wed 30 Nov 2011, Philip Neustrom <philipn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Just wanted to let you know that we've made the
first real release for
the LocalWiki project. If you were into OpenGuides, you'll definitely
like LocalWiki:
http://localwiki.org/
Interesting, thank you for letting us know! I like the ease of
editing a place's location via the map. Does that just affect the
display of the map, or is the data stored separately as lat/long as well?
I have occasionally wondered whether OpenGuides is still the right
platform for RGL, but never found anything else that has the features
I need. (And indeed I'm currently working on a new OpenGuides site,
in addition to RGL - won't be launched before the end of the year though.)
LocalWiki seems to be more traditional-wiki than OpenGuides, going by this:
https://dentonwiki.org/DentonWiki_Guide
which says that the most important concept is linking. For me, the
power of OpenGuides is that it lets links between places emerge, via
geographical proximity or via categories, so we don't have to worry
about figuring out which pages to link to which, or keeping said links
up to date when places close.
For example, I need to be able to visualise the data like this:
http://london.randomness.org.uk/scripts/locate.cgi?cat=Pubs&loc=Oxford+…
The locate.cgi script is an addon I made, but the data is pure OpenGuides.
Does LocalWiki have structured data like that?
Also, do you plan to transfer the Davis Wiki to LocalWiki? How easy
is it to transfer data from another wiki engine into LocalWiki? What
does the database structure look like?
Kake
9:39 p.m.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Kake L Pugh <kake(a)earth.li> wrote:
On Wed 30 Nov 2011, Philip Neustrom
<philipn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It affects the display of the map, yeah.
Just wanted to let you know that we've made
the first real release for
the LocalWiki project. If you were into OpenGuides, you'll definitely
like LocalWiki:
http://localwiki.org/
Interesting, thank you for letting us know! I like the ease of
editing a place's location via the map. Does that just affect the
display of the map, or is the data stored separately as lat/long as well?
I have occasionally wondered whether OpenGuides is still the right
platform for RGL, but never found anything else that has the features
I need. (And indeed I'm currently working on a new OpenGuides site,
in addition to RGL - won't be launched before the end of the year though.)
LocalWiki seems to be more traditional-wiki than OpenGuides, going by this:
https://dentonwiki.org/DentonWiki_Guide
which says that the most important concept is linking. For me, the
power of OpenGuides is that it lets links between places emerge, via
geographical proximity or via categories, so we don't have to worry
about figuring out which pages to link to which, or keeping said links
up to date when places close.
For example, I need to be able to visualise the data like this:
http://london.randomness.org.uk/scripts/locate.cgi?cat=Pubs&loc=Oxford+…
The locate.cgi script is an addon I made, but the data is pure OpenGuides.
Does LocalWiki have structured data like that?
Linking is still important. It's useful to readers and helps people
just sort of surf through the site for sometimes hours!
We can generate a map like that in LocalWiki, yeah. The only thing we
don't have right now are tags ("cafe"), but we'll be adding that in
the next release. If you check out the global map (the "Map" tab)
it'll show everything on the project, let you dive into places and
explore.
I want to add a lot more in terms of being on a specific page (e.g.
"Oxford Cafe") and then automatically displaying similar nearby
places. But we can totally do that, we just haven't added it into the
UI -- this is just the first release :) The geo stuff is using
GeoDjango + PostGIS, so it's really easy to do.
Also, do you plan to transfer the Davis Wiki to LocalWiki? How easy
is it to transfer data from another wiki engine into LocalWiki? What
does the database structure look like?
DavisWiki will be ported over, yeah. I wrote a script to import the
old DavisWiki-style wiki codebase and it wasn't /too/ tricky. It's
only complex if you are dead-set on capturing everything *perfectly*.
LocalWiki stores pages as HTML in the database, so writing an importer
is actually really easy - you just grab the rendered HTML and then
dump it into a Page object.
You should check out this code overview screencast I made a couple
months back, it goes into detail about how things are structured, etc:
http://vimeo.com/25385510 & check out http://dev.localwiki.org.
I'd be happy to help you with a test transfer, etc.
Best-
Philip
Kake
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3 Dec
3 Dec
2:54 p.m.
On Thu 01 Dec 2011, Philip Neustrom <philipn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
You should check out this code overview screencast I
made a couple
months back, it goes into detail about how things are structured, etc:
http://vimeo.com/25385510 & check out http://dev.localwiki.org.
Is there a transcript of the screencast, please?
I did already look at your dev site for the answers to my questions
before I wrote my reply - should have mentioned that.
Kake
3:16 p.m.
Oh, sorry, I also meant to reply to this bit:
On Thu 01 Dec 2011, Philip Neustrom <philipn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
DavisWiki will be ported over, yeah. I wrote a script
to import the
old DavisWiki-style wiki codebase and it wasn't /too/ tricky. It's
only complex if you are dead-set on capturing everything *perfectly*.
LocalWiki stores pages as HTML in the database, so writing an importer
is actually really easy - you just grab the rendered HTML and then
dump it into a Page object.
If you would like to try importing RGL data into your system, we have
a daily database dump here:
http://london.randomness.org.uk/dbdump/
and our data is all available under Creative Commons Attribution 2.0.
(It's a bit more complex than just rendered HTML though.)
Kake
19 Dec
19 Dec
7:57 p.m.
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Kake L Pugh <kake(a)earth.li> wrote:
Oh, sorry, I also meant to reply to this bit:
On Thu 01 Dec 2011, Philip Neustrom <philipn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'll take a look! It'd probably be easier for me to write a scraper
rather than try and parse the OG-wikimarkup. Or is there an
independent parser that can be used? E.g. is this a standardized
markup format?
I'm going to be working on a MediaWiki importer tonight and tomorrow,
so that may be a good starting point for other importer projects.
-Philip
DavisWiki will be ported over, yeah. I wrote a
script to import the
old DavisWiki-style wiki codebase and it wasn't /too/ tricky. It's
only complex if you are dead-set on capturing everything *perfectly*.
LocalWiki stores pages as HTML in the database, so writing an importer
is actually really easy - you just grab the rendered HTML and then
dump it into a Page object.
If you would like to try importing RGL data into your system, we have
a daily database dump here:
http://london.randomness.org.uk/dbdump/
and our data is all available under Creative Commons Attribution 2.0.
(It's a bit more complex than just rendered HTML though.)
Kake
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8:15 p.m.
On Mon 19 Dec 2011, Philip Neustrom <philipn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'll take a look! It'd probably be easier for
me to write a scraper
rather than try and parse the OG-wikimarkup. Or is there an
independent parser that can be used? E.g. is this a standardized
markup format?
What exactly do you want to parse? The page content is freeform -
the structured data is all in the metadata table. If you just want
to turn the wiki markup into HTML, you can use this CPAN module:
http://search.cpan.org/~dom/Wiki-Toolkit-Formatter-UseMod/
or anything else that can render UseMod markup.
Kake
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