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missing metadata search
by Janet McKnight 16 Apr '12

16 Apr '12

I am really confused by the "Missing metadata" search on the Oxford OpenGuide: http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?action=show_missing_metadata The search form says: Metadata Type: [...select...] Metadata Value: ...... _Optional, eg 'pub' when metadata value is Category_ Exclude Locales: [] Exclude Categories: [] It's the Metadata Value field, and the note after it, that's confusing me. If the metadata *value* is "Category", where is it telling me that I can put (e.g.) 'pub'? If the metadata *type* is "Category", and I put 'pub' in the metadata *value* field, then that implies I'm searching for things which are missing the Category 'pub'... which doesn't sound very useful? Sorry if I'm being dim here, but I don't think I can be the only one who'll be confused by this! (Indeed Owen says he doesn't get it either... so maybe it's just something that you need a bit more sleep to understand? ;-) Jx

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Scope of the Oxford Guide
by Kake L Pugh 13 Apr '12

13 Apr '12

Before I forget, here is some of the stuff we discussed during my week in Oxford, regarding various aspects of the scope of the guide. 1) Geographical scope. http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?Scope_Of_The_Guide says: "Obviously the guide should be about things to do within Oxford City. However, locations outside the City may be okay as long as they don't stray too far and don't belong better on another wiki. For example, we have articles on places in Kidlington, but Witney, Didcot or Aylesbury are probably too far away." Janet has however suggested that Kidlington is also too far away, as is Abingdon, but Botley is certainly part of Oxford, so saying "nothing outside the ring road" doesn't really work. Owen has suggested the traditional "6 miles from Carfax" definition. Dom thinks it's a bit tricky because Abingdon is unlikely to ever have its own Open Guide, so where should a person write about/document Abingdon, if they happen to want to do so? (Please correct me if I have wrongly paraphrased anyone there.) 2) Completism vs. selectivity. Owen thinks (and I agree with him) that completism is the way to go, rather than trying to be selective on the grounds of e.g. notability. This means that the Guide should have an entry for every business within its geographical scope. These entries don't have to contain "reviews" (see next point) or a vast amount of text, but should give a brief yet comprehensive overview of what the business is/does. Example: http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?William_Morris 3) Subjectivity vs. objectivity. Related to the above, we've started splitting off subjective "review" content from the main pub/restaurant/etc pages into subpages of people's userpages. Example: http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?Arbat http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?Kake/Reviews/Arbat The idea is that we would encourage most people to write their reviews on Daily Info, or on their own blogs, and we will then link to the relevant Daily Info page or blog post. Regular contributors can be an exception to this, if they really don't want to host their reviews elsewhere[0], but in this case the reviews will always be under their userpage rather than on the main restaurant page. [0] I fall into this category, so am somewhat biased on this question. 4) Things that have closed. The plan that Janet and I hashed out between us is thus. When a business closes, we remove all its categories and locales, add it to the "Closed" category, and make it very clear on the page that the business is no longer in, er, business. When something else opens up on the same spot, it gets a new page of its own, which is linked from the old one, and which links to said old one in turn. The "summary" field for both pages is updated to mention the old/new occupant of the premises (the summary shows up in search results, so if someone searches for e.g. "Hajduczek" and Arbat comes up, there is text saying "Russian restaurant on Cowley Road, previously a Polish restaurant called Hajduczek." to explain it). Examples: http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/search.cgi?action=search&search=hajduczek http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/search.cgi?action=search&search=trichy 5) AOB. Have I forgotten anything important? Kake

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Locale Central
by Owen McKnight 13 Apr '12

13 Apr '12

On 4 April 2012 15:30, Janet McKnight <janetmck(a)chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: >> See other thread - if we can define the streets that lie within >> "Central", I think that would solve most of the problem. > > OK, off the top of my head, opening bid for 'Central': > > High Street > Cornmarket > Broad Street > Turl Street > George Street > Gloucester Green > St Giles > New Inn Hall Street > Queen Street > St Aldates > St Michael's Street > Castle Street > New Road > Holywell Street > Blue Boar Street > Ship Street > Covered Market / Golden Cross > Magdalen Street (& East) > Westgate Centre > Clarendon Centre > Pembroke Street > > Any objections to any of those? This could be like a balloon > debate but with streets! :) Taking a historical perspective, Oxford's city walls demarcate a small area which is definitely central. These ran approximately from Oxford Castle, along Bulwarks Lane, through what's now St Michael's Street to Cornmarket, along the south side of Broad Street, to Catte Street, along New College Lane into the Turf Tavern, through New College then down Longwall Street; they cross the High Street and run down Merton Street then return along Christ Church Meadow immediately south of the colleges; they pass through Christ Church and along Brewer Street, and finally north of Turn Again Lane past the Westgate car park to Castle Street and back to the start. See http://www.headington.org.uk/oxon/city_wall/ Maybe we could agree on the outer boundary of the central area and then list all the streets within that area? e.g. starting at Oxford Castle: New Road -> Worcester Street -> Beaumont Street -> up and back down St Giles' -> Magdalen Street East -> Broad Street -> Holywell Street -> Longwall Street -> out and back in along Magdalen Bridge -> High Street -> Merton Street -> Bear Lane -> Blue Boar Street -> down and back up St Aldate's -> Brewer Street -> Turn Again Lane -> Old Greyfriars Street -> Castle Street. Owen

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College data from OxPoints
by Kake 10 Apr '12

10 Apr '12

I've just run a script to import some OxPoints data into the Oxford Guide (thanks go to Janet for providing the data in handy CSV form). This covers all the colleges in OxPoints, which I believe is all the colleges which form part of the university. In some cases, the data import simply added a few bits of missing data, e.g. geodata, summary, Wikipedia link, etc. In others, we didn't yet have a page for that college, so it created a stub one. I copied the existing practice of adding the following categories to each: Colleges, Education, The University. I also added locales in the cases where the name of the road the college is on was already defined as a locale in the guide. I didn't add locales such as "Central" because I'm not sure what counts as central. Here is an example of an update: http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?id=Lady%20Margaret%20Hall;version=1;diff… and here is an example of a new stub page: http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?Exeter_College Let me know if anything weird seems to have happened as a result of this. Kake

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TLS/Tourist Centre, High Street
by Kake 08 Apr '12

08 Apr '12

Working through some photos to make sure I've added everything I thought I had, I find myself perplexed by this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kake_pugh/6809909702/ What's it called? "TLS"? "Tourist Centre"? It's next door to a place called The Letting Shop: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kake_pugh/6956036487/ which is suspiciously similarly acronymmed. And what _is_ it? A tourist information centre? A souvenir shop? The window displays make it look like some kind of sporting goods shop. Anyone have any clues? Kake

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Overexcited spam trap
by Kake L Pugh 01 Mar '12

01 Mar '12

The Oxford Guide spam trap just refused to let me edit http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?Co-Op_Walton_Street even though all I was doing was adding the "Walton Street" locale (which I had just successfully done for Walton Street Cycles). Could this be loosened up a bit, please? (As previously mentioned, it also refused to let me change the category links on the front page earlier this week.) Kake

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Mailing list archive
by Kake L Pugh 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

The archive for this list appears not to be updating: http://urchin.earth.li/pipermail/openguides-oxford/ or am I looking in the wrong place? Kake _______________________________________________ openguides-oxford mailing list openguides-oxford(a)lists.urchin.earth.li http://urchin.earth.li/mailman/listinfo/openguides-oxford

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A week in Oxford
by Kake L Pugh 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

Hello Oxford OpenGuiders! I have made a plan (along with Janet and Owen) to visit Oxford in March and spend a week updating the Oxford Guide. We have no firm plans as yet but if you'd like to meet up then let me know. I will be arriving on the afternoon of Friday 2 March and leaving on the afternoon or evening of Friday 9 March. I'm staying in a B&B on Iffley Road (not the famously bad one). Things I would like to do before/during/after this week: - improve the user-friendliness of the guide - improve the breadth and depth of the information on the guide - add more photos to the guide - discover new things about Oxford I have various ideas about things that can be done on the first point (user-friendliness), but will send them in a separate mail. Kake _______________________________________________ openguides-oxford mailing list openguides-oxford(a)lists.urchin.earth.li http://urchin.earth.li/mailman/listinfo/openguides-oxford

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New flickr group
by Dominic Hargreaves 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

Hello, I've recently got interested in flickr, and have set up a group solely for the purpose of collecting images to use on the Oxford Guide: http://www.flickr.com/groups/oxfordopenguide/ Please do contribute if you are able! -- Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/ PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email) _______________________________________________ openguides-oxford mailing list openguides-oxford(a)lists.urchin.earth.li http://urchin.earth.li/mailman/listinfo/openguides-oxford

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OpenGuides hackfest, 18th-19th October
by Dominic Hargreaves 19 Aug '08

19 Aug '08

I am pleased to announce the 2008 OpenGuides hackfest, to be held in Oxford, UK. Information about the event will be updated on http://dev.openguides.org/wiki/OxfordHackfest2008 but here are the details: = When? = * Saturday 18th October 11am-8pm * Sunday 19th October 11am-5pm = Where? = * Oxford University Computing Services, Banbury Road <http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?Oxford_University_Computing_Services> * Travel info: <http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/about/travel.xml> * Note: the front door is locked at the weekend; either make a prior arrangement with us to arrive at a specified time, or be prepared to use a mobile phone when you arrive to be let in. = What? = Here are some ideas for what we could do: * make a CSS design suitable for shipping with the default OpenGuides distribution * implement a global OpenGuides portal * improve the mobile device support of OpenGuides * improve the user interface of OpenGuides * fix/triage a hundred and one little bugs <http://dev.openguides.org/report/1> * meet like-minded people, hack, socialise, maybe even do some Oxford data collection if you want to get out in the open * work on integration with Open Street Map * anything else OpenGuides-related that you can think of = Beer = The Oxford Beer Festival <http://oxfordcamra.org.uk/festival2008.php> is running from Thursday 16th October to Saturday 18th October. Possibilities include a lunchtime excursion on Saturday, or a meetup on Friday evening. Bear in mind that it is recommended to arrive by 6pm on the Friday in order to avoid long queues. = Connectivity = * Wired and wireless access * Bring a laptop if you have one! = Food and drink = * Tea and coffee will be available during the day * There are plenty of sandwich shops in the vicinity for lunch * There may well be an evening meal on the Saturday evening = Accommodation = There are several possibilities for hostels, B&Bs and hotels in Oxford if you are coming from outside Oxford and looking to stay on Friday or Saturday night. Additionally if you are on a budget and would like to crash in someone's spare room/floor, let us know (see below for contact info) and we'll try and hook you up with someone. = Sign up = Please let us if you will be attending (so we know who to expect, and total numbers), and whether you would be interested in a visit to the beer festival on Friday, or a meal on Saturday (including dietary preferences/requirements), by emailing us: mailto:oxford-hackfest-2008@openguides.org Note that emailing us doesn't compel you to come, so even if you're not sure, we would appreciate an email. = Questions = Email us: mailto:oxford-hackfest-2008@openguides.org = Thanks = Special thanks to OUCS management for allowing us to use the meeting rooms for this event. -- Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/ PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email) _______________________________________________ openguides-oxford mailing list openguides-oxford(a)lists.urchin.earth.li http://urchin.earth.li/mailman/listinfo/openguides-oxford

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