I am really confused by the "Missing metadata" search on the Oxford OpenGuide:
The search form says:
Metadata Type: [...select...]
Metadata Value: ...... _Optional, eg 'pub' when metadata value is Category_
Exclude Locales: 
Exclude Categories: 
It's the Metadata Value field, and the note after it, that's confusing me. If the
metadata *value* is "Category", where is it telling me that I can put (e.g.) 'pub'?
If the metadata *type* is "Category", and I put 'pub' in the metadata *value* field,
then that implies I'm searching for things which are missing the Category 'pub'...
which doesn't sound very useful?
Sorry if I'm being dim here, but I don't think I can be the only one who'll be
confused by this! (Indeed Owen says he doesn't get it either... so maybe it's just
something that you need a bit more sleep to understand? ;-)
Before I forget, here is some of the stuff we discussed during my week
in Oxford, regarding various aspects of the scope of the guide.
1) Geographical scope.
"Obviously the guide should be about things to do within Oxford
City. However, locations outside the City may be okay as long as they
don't stray too far and don't belong better on another wiki. For
example, we have articles on places in Kidlington, but Witney, Didcot
or Aylesbury are probably too far away."
Janet has however suggested that Kidlington is also too far away, as
is Abingdon, but Botley is certainly part of Oxford, so saying
"nothing outside the ring road" doesn't really work. Owen has
suggested the traditional "6 miles from Carfax" definition. Dom
thinks it's a bit tricky because Abingdon is unlikely to ever have its
own Open Guide, so where should a person write about/document
Abingdon, if they happen to want to do so?
(Please correct me if I have wrongly paraphrased anyone there.)
2) Completism vs. selectivity.
Owen thinks (and I agree with him) that completism is the way to go,
rather than trying to be selective on the grounds of e.g. notability.
This means that the Guide should have an entry for every business
within its geographical scope. These entries don't have to contain
"reviews" (see next point) or a vast amount of text, but should give a
brief yet comprehensive overview of what the business is/does.
3) Subjectivity vs. objectivity.
Related to the above, we've started splitting off subjective "review"
content from the main pub/restaurant/etc pages into subpages of
The idea is that we would encourage most people to write their reviews
on Daily Info, or on their own blogs, and we will then link to the
relevant Daily Info page or blog post. Regular contributors can be an
exception to this, if they really don't want to host their reviews
elsewhere, but in this case the reviews will always be under their
userpage rather than on the main restaurant page.
 I fall into this category, so am somewhat biased on this question.
4) Things that have closed.
The plan that Janet and I hashed out between us is thus. When a
business closes, we remove all its categories and locales, add it to
the "Closed" category, and make it very clear on the page that the
business is no longer in, er, business. When something else opens up
on the same spot, it gets a new page of its own, which is linked from
the old one, and which links to said old one in turn. The "summary"
field for both pages is updated to mention the old/new occupant of the
premises (the summary shows up in search results, so if someone
searches for e.g. "Hajduczek" and Arbat comes up, there is text saying
"Russian restaurant on Cowley Road, previously a Polish restaurant
called Hajduczek." to explain it).
Have I forgotten anything important?
On 4 April 2012 15:30, Janet McKnight <janetmck(a)chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> See other thread - if we can define the streets that lie within
>> "Central", I think that would solve most of the problem.
> OK, off the top of my head, opening bid for 'Central':
> High Street
> Broad Street
> Turl Street
> George Street
> Gloucester Green
> St Giles
> New Inn Hall Street
> Queen Street
> St Aldates
> St Michael's Street
> Castle Street
> New Road
> Holywell Street
> Blue Boar Street
> Ship Street
> Covered Market / Golden Cross
> Magdalen Street (& East)
> Westgate Centre
> Clarendon Centre
> Pembroke Street
> Any objections to any of those? This could be like a balloon
> debate but with streets! :)
Taking a historical perspective, Oxford's city walls demarcate a small
area which is definitely central. These ran approximately from Oxford
Castle, along Bulwarks Lane, through what's now St Michael's Street to
Cornmarket, along the south side of Broad Street, to Catte Street,
along New College Lane into the Turf Tavern, through New College then
down Longwall Street; they cross the High Street and run down Merton
Street then return along Christ Church Meadow immediately south of the
colleges; they pass through Christ Church and along Brewer Street, and
finally north of Turn Again Lane past the Westgate car park to Castle
Street and back to the start.
Maybe we could agree on the outer boundary of the central area and
then list all the streets within that area?
e.g. starting at Oxford Castle: New Road -> Worcester Street ->
Beaumont Street -> up and back down St Giles' -> Magdalen Street East
-> Broad Street -> Holywell Street -> Longwall Street -> out and back
in along Magdalen Bridge -> High Street -> Merton Street -> Bear Lane
-> Blue Boar Street -> down and back up St Aldate's -> Brewer Street
-> Turn Again Lane -> Old Greyfriars Street -> Castle Street.
I've just run a script to import some OxPoints data into the Oxford
Guide (thanks go to Janet for providing the data in handy CSV form).
This covers all the colleges in OxPoints, which I believe is all the
colleges which form part of the university.
In some cases, the data import simply added a few bits of missing
data, e.g. geodata, summary, Wikipedia link, etc. In others, we
didn't yet have a page for that college, so it created a stub one.
I copied the existing practice of adding the following categories to
each: Colleges, Education, The University. I also added locales in
the cases where the name of the road the college is on was already
defined as a locale in the guide. I didn't add locales such as
"Central" because I'm not sure what counts as central.
Here is an example of an update:
and here is an example of a new stub page:
Let me know if anything weird seems to have happened as a result of this.
Working through some photos to make sure I've added everything I
thought I had, I find myself perplexed by this:
What's it called? "TLS"? "Tourist Centre"? It's next door to a place
called The Letting Shop:
which is suspiciously similarly acronymmed.
And what _is_ it? A tourist information centre? A souvenir shop?
The window displays make it look like some kind of sporting goods shop.
Anyone have any clues?