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Google Maps
by Inigo Surguy 23 May '05

23 May '05

Hi, I've been experimenting with Google Maps and the Oxford Guide's RDF: Pubs: http://www.gmaptrack.com/map/locations/22/41 Colleges: http://www.gmaptrack.com/map/locations/22/40 Does anyone object if I add links to these maps to the wiki? They're quite basic at the moment, but could be useful with a bit more work. Is the full RDF for the site available anywhere in a zip or similar? So far, I've just been downloading each page as I need it, but that's a bit hard on the webserver, and also means I might miss things. Cheers Inigo

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Weekend reccie
by Dominic Hargreaves 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

I thought it would be good to go out one weekend armed with a notebook/laptop and possibly GPS and blitz some of the more popular areas of town, so we can get something resembling comprehensive coverage of areas. Of course most of these would probably start off with stub nodes, but if they are there it is easier for people to write proper content on a whim. Would anyone be interested in joining me sometime soon for such a thing? I could probably manage something this Saturday or Sunday. Cheers, -- Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/ PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email)

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New OpenGuides maintainer
by Kake L Pugh 26 Oct '04

26 Oct '04

Dominic Hargreaves has kindly offered to be the new release manager for OpenGuides. I will still be writing code, but from now on he is the CPAN maintainer and the Person With Big Stick. Thanks Dom. Kake

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Oxford beer festival
by IvorW 16 Oct '04

16 Oct '04

Folks, I'm planning to travel to the Oxford beer festival, next Saturday. http://oxfordcamra.org.uk/festival2004.php Anyone fancy meeting up, please let me know. Ivor.

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Licence in place
by Dominic Hargreaves 02 Aug '04

02 Aug '04

Hello, I'm pleased to announce that the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 [1] licence has now been applied to the Oxford Guide. Cheers, Dominic. [1] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/

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Re: Licencing
by Dave Page 10 Jul '04

10 Jul '04

On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 06:10:12PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > The purpose of the flag day is to give people a chance to verify that > the Guide does not contain non-original content whose licence would be > violated by this change I've been having a look at the legal pages for both Yell (which I've been using to obtain address and phone number information) and Streetmap (which I've been using to acquire OS co-ordinates for nodes), and I'm unsure as to whether this is permitted at all, even before we take the CC license into consideration. Yell is full of thick legalese [1], but the relevant section is: "4. Permitted uses [...] For the avoidance of doubt and without limitation, you are expressly prohibited from: [...] i. modifying the data or other material from Yell.com ("the Data") or merging the Data with any other data; [...] iii. using or redistributing the Data for the purposes of compiling databases, lists or directories, other than as and to the extent necessary to use the Data for a use not prohibited by this paragraph 4" I'd say that OG definitely falls into the category of a directory, and by adding our content and other data we're definitely falling foul of 4.i. Do we have some kind of fair use exemption here? Similarly with Streetmap [2]: "A single print of the results of a map search is permitted for your own personal use. Otherwise the reproduction, copying, downloading, storage, recording, broadcasting, retransmission and distribution of any part of the Streetmap site is not permitted." Do the OS co-ordinates count as part of the Streetmap site? Dave [1] http://www.yell.com/legal/home.html [2] http://www.streetmap.co.uk/disclaimer.htm -- "Just learn to hide the way that you feel, never let them know that you're scared, but understand that you're not the special only one" - New Model Army, "Ballad of Bodmin Pill" IM: grimoire(a)jabber.earth.li | http://sparky.ox.compsoc.net/~grimoire

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Licencing
by Dominic Hargreaves 07 Jul '04

07 Jul '04

Hello. Welcome to the Licencing Discusion about the Oxford Guide. For reference, other Licencing Discussions have been recorded: <http://openguides.org/mail/openguides-dev/2003-December/000163.html> <http://openguides.org/mail/openguides-london/2003-December/000179.html> <http://london.openguides.org/?Licensing_Policy> <http://www.nottinghamguide.org.uk/?Licensing_Policy> This was supposed to be a completely thought through mail but I'll never send it if I try and work through all the arguments in my head first... The long and short of it is that we can't carry on with no statement of a) Copyright holders [1] b) a licence if the site is going to run without hiccoughs for a long time to come (which I hope, of course, that it will). To begin with, copyright: This is slightly tricky to apply in retrospect, for obvious reaons. Certainly people have occasionally put work that is clearly copyrighted to others into the Guide; I've sometimes left this content there until the situation can be discussed properly. Where content is original to the contributor, the same issue applies. We can't fully control and licence the work sensibly with such a scattered set of copyright holders (or at least we could, but it would likely cause problems in the future). Therefore it is my preference to assign the copyright of all content contributed to the guide to a single entity. The problem with that of course is what entity... Licensing: We want to allow the best use of our work, focussing on the non-commercial aspects, but do we want to rule out commerical redistribution entirely? What about distributing by charging only at cost? It would be really nice if at some point in the future the guide could be turned into a paper booklet that could be distributed. London and Nottingham both use this: <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/1.0/> Any objections to using it (or the updated version - <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/>)? Let the discussion flow from here... Dominic. [1] Actually I'm not that sure about this bit, because it means we can't include other suitably-licensed work in the guide at all. Nottingham have the take-all-ownership line, London don't.

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Stylesheets
by Dominic Hargreaves 09 Mar '04

09 Mar '04

Hello, OpenGuides has changed its CSS stuff around recently, and in addition I'd made some changes on the local version before so things are a bit disorganised again. Would anyone like to hack on an updated version so I can go ahead and update our OG install? <I started on http://un.earth.li/~dom/oxfordguide-test/guide.css> a while ago but I'm Not A CSS Person so quickly got bored. If someone wants to use that as a base for something decent that may or may not vaguely resemble the current look and feel, I'd be grateful! I've put the example css files from CVS at <http://un.earth.li/~dom/oxfordguide-test/> too. The test site that you should use as a reference is <http://un.earth.li/~dom/cgi-bin/oxfordguide-test/wiki.cgi>. Hopefully you are using a browser that allows you to override the CSS file. If not, give me a shout and I'll change the URL to a file that you control. Cheers, Dominic.

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