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Re: [OpenGuides-Oxford] [OGDev] [OGL] There was a release; also, time passed

by Dominic Hargreaves

Oops, time passed (anyone else finding that's happening these days?) On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 01:43:47PM +0100, Kake wrote: > On Wed 29 Apr 2020, Dominic Hargreaves <dom(a)earth.li> wrote: > > Neither cambridge, london or oxford are being actively used or > > maintained by anyone, as far as I know, for many years, so it's > > probably time I (not-so?)-gracefully turn them all off. > > I have a feeling I’ve made this plea here before, but speaking as a > local historian, I don’t think these websites should just be deleted. > > I agree that it needs to be made very clear that the information isn’t > current (didn’t london once have a banner at the top of every page > saying this?), but all three of the above are useful sources for local > historians, and surely london is also of some interest to historians > of technology. London has a message on the front page, but I think that is not as useful. True, it wouldn't be hard to update the templates, so I'll do that soonish, and try and tidy up Oxford and Cambridge (spoiler alert, when I started to do this the other week, I ended up breaking the database, so it's currently offline awaiting time to resurrect it). > bob is happy to host the sites if Dom doesn’t want to do it any more, > and if bob is hosting them then I’m happy to admin them. If they are truly read-only, and can be cleaned up, there overhead in running them is small. But on the other hand, running the software is probably not the most effective way to set up an long-lived archive. A static HTML export, either hosted locally, or being hosted by one of the options discussed below, would make more sense. Something to think about, anyway. On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 05:14:18PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > On 29/04/2020 13:43, Kake wrote: > > On Wed 29 Apr 2020, Dominic Hargreaves <dom(a)earth.li> wrote: > > > Neither cambridge, london or oxford are being actively used or > > > maintained by anyone, as far as I know, for many years, so it's > > > probably time I (not-so?)-gracefully turn them all off. > > I have a feeling I’ve made this plea here before, but speaking as a > > local historian, I don’t think these websites should just be deleted. > > Did you know that the British Library has a programme for archiving > websites? Provided that they are primarily original-content-driven then they > want to archive even personal sites (they're archiving my cricket blog > <https://larvalstageumpire.sport.blog/>, for example), so Openguides sites > would certainly qualify. They may already be aware of the OG sites, but if > not they're happy to take nominations from the public for sites to archive. > See here: > https://www.bl.uk/collection-guides/uk-web-archive This is very interesting, although it didn't strike me as being the most accessible set of sites (quite a lot of clicking around to find content that was actually available to the public). I was going to suggest the archive.org as being good enough. Cheers Dominic

2 years, 10 months

There was a release; also, time passed

by Dominic Hargreaves

I just noticed through random chance that there was a new release back in January: https://metacpan.org/release/OpenGuides I mention in case anyone is interested. It's been a very long time since I even thought about OpenGuides, I'm afraid. But since for the first time since I can remember I got emailed by london.openguides.org (with a user who was mainly trying ot leave a message about how out of date everything is). And according to my email archives it's being in "wind down" state for about a decade... I think it accidentally regained editability after a sever migration a few years ago. Neither cambridge, london or oxford are being actively used or maintained by anyone, as far as I know, for many years, so it's probably time I (not-so?)-gracefully turn them all off.

2 years, 10 months

St. Giles' Cafe

by Kake

St. Giles' Cafe has apparently changed substantially, so I've moved the old info to a different page: http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?St._Giles%27_Cafe_%28Pre-2013%29 I didn't have time to go through and pick out the bits into separate review pages, so I thought this was the best thing to do for now. The current version is still at http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?St._Giles%27_Cafe Kake

9 years, 9 months

Map links

by Kake

The autogenerated map links seem to have vanished from Oxford Guide pages. Could we have them back, please? Kake

9 years, 11 months

Homewares

by Kake

We appear to have two categories for homewares: http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?Category_Homeware http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?Category_Homeware_Shops Any objections to me standardising on the latter? Kake

9 years, 11 months

Oxford/Cambridge and friends upgraded to OpenGuides 0.70

by Dominic Hargreaves

Hello, This long-overdue has now happened on urchin (from 0.65). The following sites are affected: cambridge.openguides.org copenhagen.openguides.org isle-of-wight.openguides.org london.openguides.org north-devon.openguides.org oxford.openguides.org portsmouth.openguides.org reading.openguides.org swindon.openguides.org If you spot any problems, let us know here, and hopefully I or the site owner (if different) can fix things up. Note to the interested: this is in Debian squeeze, using the packages from Debian experimental[1], as well as a backport of libtemplate-perl[2] and manual installs of libgeo-coordinates-osgb-perl[3] and libwiki-toolkit-formatter-usemod-perl[4]. Cheers, Dominic. [1] <http://packages.debian.org/experimental/openguides> [2] <http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/libtemplate-perl> [3] <http://packages.debian.org/sid/libgeo-coordinates-osgb-perl> [4] <http://packages.debian.org/sid/libwiki-toolkit-formatter-usemod-perl> -- Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/ PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email)

10 years, 1 month

Node titles on the Oxford Guide

by Kake

Node titles don't seem to be showing up on the Oxford Guide. Is this intentional, or is it a side-effect of recent upgrades? Kake

10 years, 2 months

Real ale

by Kake

I seem to have accidentally created a Real Ale category on the Oxford Guide. Does anyone have an objection to its continuing to exist? Kake

10 years, 4 months

Broken maps on the Oxford Guide

by Kake

Maps on the Oxford Guide appear to be broken - instead of the OSM tiles they're showing a picture with this URL: http://tinyurl.com/osmtile1 which redirects to a post explaining that older non-standard OSM tile URLs have been switched off. Kake

10 years, 8 months

Usability/user-friendliness improvements

by Kake L Pugh

As promised in my other mail, here are some suggestions for improving the user-friendliness of the Oxford Guide. They're not in any particular order. I do have some other ideas stemming from a very useful conversation with Janet, but they are a bit more complicated and I haven't finished thinking them through (perhaps we could discuss them in March). - Make "The Oxford Guide" in the banner be a link to the home page. This is how people expect websites to work these days and it keeps tripping me up. - Remove the recent changes display from the front page. It's always full of spam. (Alternatively, but harder, patch OpenGuides so unmoderated changes don't show up in this list.) - Switch from this style of locale/category page: http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?id=Locale_Central&version=1 to this: http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?id=Locale_Central&version=2 This would involve (a) editing existing pages, and (b) creating a custom_autocreate_content.tt template something like this: http://svn.randomness.org.uk/trunk/london.randomness.org.uk/custom-template… - Once the above has been done, switch the front page links to point to the category/locale pages proper, e.g. http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?Locale_Central instead of http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?action=index;index_type=locale;index_val… - Switch to the most recent version of the Google Maps API. Version 3 of the API is much smoother and also optimised for mobile browsing. This could be done either with an external script - see for example http://london.randomness.org.uk/scripts/locate.cgi?loc=SE1;map=1 - or by patching OpenGuides. Here is the code we use on RGL: http://svn.randomness.org.uk/trunk/london.randomness.org.uk/scripts/locate.… http://svn.randomness.org.uk/trunk/london.randomness.org.uk/scripts/lib/RGL… - Edit the stylesheet so node images float to the right; compare http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?id=Category_Chinese_Food&version=3 with http://cambridge.openguides.org/wiki/?id=Category_Chinese_Food&version=4 - Add more categories to the sidebar (see the Cambridge Guide link for an example). (BTW, please don't just respond with "JFDI". It really is a very disheartening thing to hear. For most of these things, if I had the time and brain space to do them then I would already have done them. However, I would be extremely happy to advise and assist anyone who is keen to take charge of rolling the scripts I've written for RGL into OpenGuides core.) Kake _______________________________________________ openguides-oxford mailing list openguides-oxford(a)lists.urchin.earth.li http://urchin.earth.li/mailman/listinfo/openguides-oxford

10 years, 9 months

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