On Sat 24 Mar 2012, Kake <kake(a)earth.li> wrote:
I think outside seating and beer gardens are different
the latter is a subset of the former. Outside seating could be a
couple of benches out on the street, which you might sit at if there
was no room inside or you were all smokers. I don't think I'd call a
space a "beer garden" unless it had grass or plants or something. I
mean, if there's nothing growing there, how is it a garden?
I agree with this post!
So I'll stick with 'outside seating' but add 'beer garden' for pubs
which have a proper garden?
Still unsure what to do about the Magdalen Arms, which has tables for
eating outside, in a fenced-off (non-smoking) area, with pot plants and
stuff, but it is definitely paved rather than garden-ish.
Maybe 'outside non-smoking area' is another category. (The Turf has one
of those as well.) I seem to just keep proliferating categories without
actually adding anything useful, though. :-/
I see we now have a Category Post Offices, the
phrasing of which I
like. Is Category Postal Services now redundant?
The only thing in Postal Services that isn't a post office is Iffley
Community Shop, which collects letters & packages for posting but isn't
a post office.
Other things I can think of which might count as 'postal services'
without being a post office are:
* other parcel/courier services eg Ryman now does DHL (& so does
somewhere else -- WHSmith maybe? -- but I can't remember where)
* post office depots ie places where your parcel will go to die if
you're not in when it's delivered, but you can't actually send post
from them (this is crazy, I know, but that's what we have with the
depot in Blackbird Leys).
So I don't think it's an entirely useless category (I think there's a
set of things that I would expect a Post Office to include over and
above sending stuff through the post, which these places don't include)
but it may not be very clear (though we can & probably should add scope
notes when we come to these decisions).
I'm not sure if Post Offices need to have Postal Services as a category
too (because I'm still not sure where I stand on subset categories, or
rather I want them to be automated eg anything which gets category
Post Offices automatically gets Postal Services, but I know we can't do
Does that make sense? I am having trouble converting these interesting
discussions into actual actions... :-}