Gah, another mis-sent mail! I _knew_ I'd replied to this, was just wondering why it didn't show up on the list. Sorry Janet for the duplicate.
On Sun 18 Mar 2012, Janet McKnight janetmck@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote:
I added "Outside Seating" (which I now think should have been "Outdoor Seating") and as a result got into a debate with Owen about other types of outside seating. I think "Pub garden" is a useful category and distinct from "Outside seating". He thinks it's all the same thing but if we are going to distinguish between them then the Magdalen's outdoor seating counts as a garden (it's enclosed but it is all concrete). I think if I was looking for a pub with a pub garden I'd be a bit disappointed if it was all concrete. Am I asking too much? :-}
I have had similar thoughts re the "Beer Garden" category on RGL. I think it's a bit of a subjective thing, which is unusual as OpenGuides categories tend to be objective. For example, someone wanted to add a "Good Jukebox" category to RGL but I said no :) Then again, we do have "Vegan Friendly", which _could_ be objective (e.g. we could make rules about how many vegan dishes must be on the menu), but in practice is subjective.
I think outside seating and beer gardens are different things, though the latter is a subset of the former. Outside seating could be a couple of benches out on the street, which you might sit at if there was no room inside or you were all smokers. I don't think I'd call a space a "beer garden" unless it had grass or plants or something. I mean, if there's nothing growing there, how is it a garden?
(The above was what I intended to send to the list last weekend, the below is new.)
I see we now have a Category Post Offices, the phrasing of which I like. Is Category Postal Services now redundant?
Kake