11 Mar
2012
11 Mar
'12
4:51 p.m.
On Sun 11 Mar 2012, Stephen Gower <stephen.gower(a)wolfson.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
I'm really torn here. I do really want a word for 'bits between Cowley &
Iffley Road', it's a clearly defined triangle with lots of weird stuff in
it, it's much more specific than 'East Oxford' but putting it into either
'Cowley Road' or 'Iffley Road' is potentially confusing if it's right
in
the middle of that triangle.
Googling around a bit I find that the Oxford Mail has called it the
'magic triangle':
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/9485075.Jubilee____is_perfect_excuse_for_a…
I really like this name for it & am going to start using this whenever
possible whether or not we put it in the openguide! :D
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 09:01:22PM +0000, Kake L Pugh
wrote:
I think "East Oxford" is a very big locale and, as such, not as useful on
its own for the purposes of finding things near other things. I mean, I'd
say George & Delila's and Templars Square were both in East Oxford (ie I
think EOx is actually *bigger* than you've drawn it, though I do love your
map!), but I reckon it'd probably take me about 45 minutes to walk from one
to the other.
I like having street-specific locales for the streets with significant
amounts of stuff on.
What I really want is some sort of hierarchy eg 'street locale', 'local
district locale', 'area locale', 'postal locale'. (Needs work.) eg our
local Co-op is in 'Iffley Road' (the road it's on) and also
'Donnington'
(a local district) and also 'East Oxford' (a more widely-recognised &
wider-reaching district) and also 'Oxford' (as opposed to Blackbird Leys
or Botley or Kidlington or other things that you might include in the
postal address before 'Oxford' even if they are sort of part of Oxford).
There is probably a proper vocabulary (or ontology!) for this sort of
thing, but I thought I'd try inventing it from scratch instead. o_O
At the moment, these have things in them that are not strictly on the
road itself, e.g. the Magic Cafe is in the Iffley Road and Cowley Road
locales, because there isn't really a name for the locale that lies
between those roads.
When you say "is in" do you mean you feel it should be? Because at the
moment, it's only in the East Oxford locale, which is what I think is
correct. See for
example the map of the Cowley Road locale:
http://oxford.openguides.org/wiki/?action=index;format=map;index_type=local…
Looking at this, I'd say Jahazi, the Inner Bookshop, Everest and Oxford
Cycle Workshop are incorrectly tagged. The latter has moved location anyway
- I'll try and get the correct geotags in soon unless someone beats me to
it.
Oxford Cycle Workshop as such doesn't exist any more -- it ceased trading
in Autumn of 2011: https://theocw.wordpress.com/
There is now:
* Oxford Cycle Workshop Training (on Glanville Road[1])
* Cycle Oxford CC (which doesn't really have a location...?)
* Oxford Mobile Cycle Repairs (what do we do about mobile things?)
and
* Oxfork (which inhabits the building where OCW used to be)
[1] Gosh! The map linked from 'Glanville Road' here:
http://www.ocwt.coop/training-centre/
actually shows the location of all sorts of other exciting bike-related
stuff.
I will stop rambling now, yes. :-}
Jx