18 Nov
2004
18 Nov
'04
9:54 p.m.
What do you think about
http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Designer_Sale_UK ?
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Earle Martin
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http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/
18 Nov
18 Nov
10:05 p.m.
On Thu 18 Nov 2004, Earle Martin <openguides(a)downlode.org> wrote:
What do you think about
http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Designer_Sale_UK ?
I was going to replace the text with "see website" or something like
that, and fix the locales/categories but I don't have Flash on here so
I can't view the website. Suggest someone who can see Flash does
that. The page only needs to exist for another month-ish before we
can remove it for being out of date.
Kake
10:07 p.m.
I personally have little problem with this. It would be nicer if they had
explicitly said "this is an advert", but it is not written to deceive.
Businesses saying what they do is good, it is useful information, and so I
think has a place.
I wonder if WikiEtiquette should have a paragraph in giving guidance to what
someone in this position should do.
George
10:12 p.m.
On Thu 18 Nov 2004, George Brisco <george(a)brisco.org.uk> wrote:
I personally have little problem with this. It would
be nicer if they had
explicitly said "this is an advert", but it is not written to deceive.
My main problem with it is that I suspect the text is copied directly
from their website. I'd prefer there was just a sentence or two
saying what they do, and a pointer to the website for more details.
I think long detailed stuff on OGL should be stuff written by
customers rather than people directly concerned with the business.
I'm not against businesses mentioning themselves neutrally on the
site. We had an instance some time last year (I think) of a pizza
place that added themselves to the site and offered discounts to OGL
readers. We renamed the page and tweaked the content to fit in with
the rest of the site. Marna took up the discount and discovered that
the place was indeed very good, so she added her opinion to the page.
But long screeds of press-release-like stuff is not really in fitting
with the rest of the site.
Kake
19 Nov
19 Nov
9:57 a.m.
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:12:27 +0000, Kake L Pugh <kake(a)earth.li> wrote:
My main problem with it is that I suspect the text is
copied directly
from their website. I'd prefer there was just a sentence or two
saying what they do, and a pointer to the website for more details.
I'm guessing that's the text from the mailshot they sent out. Looks
like they are regular events, and not just a one off for Xmas so they
may come back and update the page. As to where we stand about
companies adding stuff about themselves in this manner, hard to say...
A.
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21 Nov
21 Nov
9:08 p.m.
Kake L Pugh wrote:
I think long detailed stuff on OGL should be stuff
written by
customers rather than people directly concerned with the business.
I would agree with this, thought how you enforce it is another matter.
I would suggest that the guidelines are updated to say items written in
style that suggests it has been added by the supplier are subject to
being revised or deleted.
The other thing I find a little worrying about this is they have put the
item into 4 categories
*Categories:* Budget
<http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Category_Budget> / Designer
<http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Category_Designer> / Fashion
<http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Category_Fashion> / Gift
<http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Category_Gift> which I assume
were created by them. Is there any control over the appropriate
creating of categories
Andrew
9:48 p.m.
On Sun 21 Nov 2004, Andrew Black <andrew3(a)black1.org.uk> wrote:
I would agree with this, thought how you enforce it is
another matter.
Let the wiki way take care of it. Someone will clear the page up at
some point. That someone might even be me.
I would suggest that the guidelines are updated to say
items written in
style that suggests it has been added by the supplier are subject to
being revised or deleted.
*All* items are subject to being revised or deleted :)
The other thing I find a little worrying about this is
they have put
the item into 4 categories [...] which I assume were created by
them. Is there any control over the appropriate creating of
categories
Nonexistent categories are automatically created when a page is
committed. They can be deleted by admins (me and Earle) if they prove
to be erroneous. For example last night while doing a demo of the
site to some friends I auto-created a kebab category that was wrongly
pluralised. That will need tidying up.
Kake
24 Nov
24 Nov
1:43 a.m.
On Sun 21 Nov 2004, Kake L Pugh <kake(a)earth.li> wrote:
Let the wiki way take care of it. Someone will clear
the page up at
some point. That someone might even be me.
Oh, look:
http://london.openguides.org/?Designer_Sale_UK
Kake
19 Nov
19 Nov
10:02 a.m.
I fixed up a similar page:
http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Chiswick_Honda%2C_W4_5YT
The original version messed up some of the metadata:
http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?id=Chiswick_Honda%2C_W4_5YT&vers…
I don't really have a problem with it. The wording shows pretty clearly
who entered the text. The interesting thing is this now opens it up for
user comment.
e.g., "These guys are clowns, don't touch them." or similar.
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