OpenGuides-London May 2004

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[OpenGuides-London] an idea
by Bob Walker 19 May '04

19 May '04

on the new page page http://london.openguides.org/newpage.cgi it would be nice to have a link to http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Adding_New_Pages just in case someone dives right it wihtout havign read http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?How_To_Get_Started and indeed that might be a good link to have there as well. -- Bob Walker http://www.randomness.org.uk/ <@steve> you can recommend a good mascara to bob <@steve> he hasn't been scaring his cow-orkers enough recently

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[OpenGuides-London] indexes up the spout again
by Bob Walker 18 May '04

18 May '04

Search::InvertedIndex::add_key_to_group() - Unable to save 'ged_000000000000_e_0000000048f8' -> '------------ 0000000048f7 upright' to map at /home/earle/downlode.org/perl/lib/CGI/Wiki/Search/SII.pm line 204 -- Bob Walker http://www.randomness.org.uk/ <@steve> you can recommend a good mascara to bob <@steve> he hasn't been scaring his cow-orkers enough recently

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[OpenGuides-London] Habituation is bad.
by Earle Martin 17 May '04

17 May '04

I couldn't sleep just now, and a realisation came to me. When you see a thing enough times, it tends to fade into the mental background, until you forget why it was there in the first place. This has happened to us, and I'll tell you where: categories and locales. Allow me to explain. Way back when we were using UseModWiki to run "grubstreet", we came up with the idea of categories and locales. Certain nodes had a magic quality - at least, we agreed they did, although the software didn't know any better - of "containing" other nodes. At the time, no functionality was available to us to record metadata, so things were done by naming nodes "Category This" or "Locale There". However, the creation of the OpenGuides software changed the situation. Now we can to designate what categories nodes are in properly, and mark some nodes as being nodes themselves by being in "Category Category". The analogous situation exists for locales. So why are we still naming pages "Category Whatever" and "Locale Something"? Prepending these definitions to node names is ugly, in a Pompidou Centre pipes-on-the-outside kind of way, confusing for new users ("Locale Wherever" was always an awkward construction), redundant in light of proper metadata (incidentally, "Category Category" should just be "Categories") and, most tellingly, causes a variety of ontological problems such as nodes called "Fred" that have to be redirected to "Category Fred", separate nodes for a place and the _locale_ of a place, and so on, examples of which crop up on RecentChanges all the time. This is clearly what the XP people call a "code smell"[0]. How to remedy this situation, as far as I can see: 1) Warn the users. 2) Change the code so that nodes no longer have "Category" or "Locale" prepended to their names. 3) Find all the pages that fit the pattern of "Fred" and "Category Fred" and merge the latter into the former - automatically for cases where the former contains only a redirect, and manually for everything else (not many cases, hopefully). 4) Munge all links pointing to "Category X"/"Locale Y". 5) Erm, that's it? Did I miss anything? Comments, please. I'd like to mark this as priority for OpenGuides 0.32; Kake, if you haven't got time at the moment I can look into it. Would it require any changes to CGI::Wiki? Ta, Earle. [0] http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?CodeSmell -- Earle Martin hex on irc.perl.org http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-London] Upgrade to 0.31
by Earle Martin 11 May '04

11 May '04

The Open Guide to London is now running OpenGuides 0.31. Please let me know if you encounter any problems with the upgrade. -- Earle -- Earle Martin hex on irc.perl.org http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-London] Smithfield market
by IvorW 01 May '04

01 May '04

This is a research project and a call for photos. Smithfield market is the site of the original slaughterhouse for London, when its population and area were much smaller. Cattle were taken to Smith field for slaughtering, to supply the population needs for meat at the time. Smithfield is one of the last functioning wholesale markets in London, and I think that the feel of the place needs recording. Currently, only one third of the site is being used. There is no need for an abattoir for example. Apparently, there are plans to relocate the market to north of London somewhere. This will make it easier in terms of transport and logistics. However, what plans are there for the use of the Smithfield site on Charterhouse? It could become a retail market, like Spitalfields. It could be knocked down for redevelopment as office space. Who knows? There is also at least one pub that opens special hours to cater for the market. Although it's a grimy building, I still think it's a fascinating piece of architecture. I don't know how much of it members of the public can walk round, but I think a page on Smithfield could make an excellent addition to the London OpenGuide. Ivor.

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