-- Original Message -- Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:16:49 +0100 From: maximilian attems maks@sternwelten.at To: OpenGuides software developers openguides-dev@openguides.org Subject: Re: [OpenGuides-Dev] encoding troubles Reply-To: xlai-feat@xemaps.com

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, IvorW wrote:

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I wonder whether this might be the time to revisit node_name_to_node_param and provide something more flexible. I have in mind something inwardly pluggable that supplies a normalisation function for node names.

what do you mean by "normalisation",

What I have in mind is a many to one mapping (or rather a several to one mapping).

http://mywiki/?caf%C3%A9 and http://mywiki/?cafe should both reach the same page. Also, a link to [[café]] should work, as should a link to [[cafe]]. These indicate that there is a single wiki page for café, and that the various ways of expressing it are translated into a "normal form" (in computer science speak).

People would be encouraged to use the accented form in page links.

it would be cool to support the "äöü" and others?

I agree :)

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Currently, n_n_t_n_p reduces multiple whitespace to a single space, replaces spaces with underscores and adds Title Case. There is no reason why this

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could not apply de-accenting of letters or turning umlauts into diphthongs. I think that there is a strong case for this being a plugin.

please explain diphthongs.

Example: the word für can also be written fuer. Schön can be written schoen. I don't know what the German word for a diphthong is, but it means putting two vowels together.

Also, ß can be replaced with ss.

i'm not a native speaker and dict doesn't know it either. why de-accenting letters? "café" should well be permitted as category.

café will still work (see above).

This would be an option for someone setting up a guide, whether the title munging rules included such normalisations.

If there were no normalisations, [[café]] and [[cafe]] point to two different pages.

The #REDIRECT mechanism is probably sufficient if there were just a few mappings needed (as is the case with an English language guide: it would be nice for [[café]] to work).

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Also, this could provide a solution to some of the King's_cross_st_pancras problem (I originally raised this as an issue with search, but it could equally be thought of as a node name munging issue). see http://openguides.org/mail/openguides-dev/2003-October/000091.html

as i'm not familiar with the openguides code, i may have misunderstood your statements.

i hope you'll find a solution for this encoding problem. :)

Hopefully my explanations are making more sense to you now.

Ivor.

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