Hi, I don't follow OG development but as host operator a few things are
coming up. The machine's load is gradually climbing over time and some
of that is OG.
Despite a relatively low hit rate on OG it is consuming quite a bit of
resource. If OG started taking off it would take the machine down.
First up: index.cgi requires 0.35s to perform a `perl -c` syntax check.
Any thoughts on putting OG on a mod_perl server? I have mod_perl running
here of course and we'd need to coordinate some apache.conf stuff.
Second: the supersearch.cgi gulps down CPU, often for seconds at a time.
It is a frequent resident of `top` output. This isn't really
acceptable. I'm going to request this feature be turned off unless an
effective optimisation plan or some other way to reduce its impact
here is constructed pretty soon. Sorry about this but it's encroaching
Third: I wonder if there's some way to instruct robots not to spider
parts of your wiki. This ought to speak for itself:
$ grep crawl /var/log/apache/london.openguides.org-access.log | grep 'action=edit' | wc -l
Finally: I posted about a DoS and was wondering what the status of a
solution was. http://openguides.org/mail/openguides-dev/2004-October/000542.html
Paul (any overbearing tone unintentional ;-)
Paul Makepeace .............................. http://paulm.com/inchoate/
"If my elbow was straight, then I'll show oyu mine!"
as i may have mentioned i've been working on a nodedb map and local
information captive portal splash screen server thing for london.
earle's been hacking, and the Rev. Rumble helped swat some bugs, thx!
it generates node homepages that look like this: (a simplified version
goes on the access point splash screen)
with local information crawled from the semantic web, which for
practical current purposes just means openguides. (hopefully
http://b.evnt.org/ at some point, too.) i had some niggles...
- my spider died a few times because it ate toxic XML. i stuck an eval
round each page it swallowed, but it'd be nice to not have to.
- the RDF links from the HTML category index pages (e.g.
are broken (they have null values for the GET parameters)
- what happened to http://dev.openguides.org (i get host not found?)
if there wasn't a machine-interface HOWTO on there, i would like to
add one - generally i would like to think about, and work with earle
on making patches to, expose more openguides query type functions -
e.g. "find things within N metres of X" - in RDF... maybe we can
look at the XML character filtering too.
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 08:25:09AM +0000, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
> I can't really tell from the tiny little aerial photo given. Not enough
> context. If things like Hyde Park, Big Ben, Hammersmith Flyover, Earls
> Court etc were marked, I might be able to work it out.
okay, i view this as a cartography failure on my part; the hopes of
this map, over the old consume.net one, was that it *would* supply
identifying context... which is easier if your node is right near the
isle of dogs ;) what else have i got that will help...
try this: http://map.wirelesslondon.info/area/?postcode=W14 - i added
a layer of OG points to the mapserver (which is more rawly at
they're not differentiated, because all i know now is that they are
geo:SpatialThings ... one option i could pursue is filtering all the
public transport types, and just show them (with little icons like on
the splash pages already?)
> > 3. the things near you are SpatialThings but they don't have osx/y.
> Well this is about 100m up the road from my place, and has coordinates:
> > 4. i fucked up something else.
> That could be it?
i see several things that went wrong:
- the places didnt get their special geometry after crawling, this is
- the spatial query that i have saying "show me N nearest things"
appears to be giving bad results for your location. i really don't
know why, because:
- it worked fine in E14
- Schuyler helped me write the query, and i was kind of sleepy at
the time, and now i don't understand how it works
my guess is that the query is returning distances in the wrong order
in radius N, and there are a lot more points in the Open Guide "near"
you than "near" me.
back to the displaying-points matter; apart from inferring things from
types, which are just strings anyway wth no reinforcing taxonomy like
WordNet (folkschonomy mutter, metacrap), i have no way of making
guesses about how *important* things are in different presentation
contexts. public transport is always important, and is often on maps.
park types, maybe, though they look odd demarcated with points (better
park shapes as part of the London Free Map schtick comes next;
http://uo.space.frot.org/?LondonFreeMap ) but "this place is
important, therefore this one is not" is ripe for annotation wars...
i am very open to suggestions on what would make the WL map more usable /
more like something that people would point and shout at, within our
means. and for making a free map webservice that is useful to OG...
I am emailing to request permission to use an image(s) from your site
Routemaster Bus images - http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Routemaster
The image would be used as part of an assignment for a web design unit on a
foundation degree course at Southport College
The image would be included in a website with the facility to right click on
the image removed
Cheers Andy Laverick
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What would be really, really nice would be to have a new metadata field
called "Summary", which would be used for one-line summaries of the content
of nodes. This could then be included in the output of "nearby" listings and
make them much more useful.
1. _The Dog and Handgun, WC4X 1AA_ (144 metres away)
"Crap pub full of angry drunkards, avoid"
2. _International Museum of Fish_ (270 metres away)
"Fascinating attraction for all fish lovers"
3. _Marmalade City_ (312 metres away)
"Department store for all things marmalade-related"
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i'm wondering if anyone has developed, or is working on, an
authentication module for OG.
briefly, i set up an OG for some collaborators; they're now
threatening to switch to a different wiki, and make the existing one
read-only, because the spam problem is so bad.
the time/energy i want to devote to fixing this, is minimal. if anyone
else is at least halfway, i'd appreciate a peek at code; i know it
wouldn't be too much effort to hack something together, but it would
be pretty thankless (though i suppose it's something that a lot of
people want? trivial 'are you human', cookie-based spam holdoffs have
simply not worked... and i know we went through that debate a few
Grrr, bloody Reply-To list headers. I strongly protest!
----- Forwarded message from Rev Simon Rumble <simon(a)rumble.net> -----
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 10:02:38 +0000
From: Rev Simon Rumble <simon(a)rumble.net>
To: OpenGuides software developers <openguides-dev(a)openguides.org>
Subject: Re: [OpenGuides-Dev] Linking to OpenGuides
Reply-To: OpenGuides software developers <openguides-dev(a)openguides.org>
This one time, at band camp, Barry Hunter wrote:
> Or is there a way to get a list of currently running OpenGuides, and their
> (approx) area of coverage?
Well the list is probably small enough now that you could visit each and
work it out.
Most are city-based, though mine (engineer.openguides.org) is global.
At the moment there are no mechanisms for Openguides to talk to each
other, but it would be a Good Thing <tm>.
Rev Simon Rumble <simon(a)rumble.net>
The Tourist Engineer
Geeks need vacations too.
"TV is chewing gum for the eyes."
- Frank Lloyd Wright
OpenGuides-Dev mailing list - OpenGuides-Dev(a)openguides.org
----- End forwarded message -----
Rev Simon Rumble <simon(a)rumble.net>
The Tourist Engineer
Because nerds travel too.
Old ravers never die. They just decide house music isn't
so bad after all.
I notice that OpenGuides include a search based on a geographical Location, like
I would like to add a link to the Open guide network on my coordinate converter page here:
Is there a central script that I could link to via OS easting/northing or Lat/Long, and it would forward to the relevant guide?
Or is there a way to get a list of currently running OpenGuides, and their (approx) area of coverage?
For the moment I guess I could get this list by visiting each openguide and downloading the rdf (which I think is offered but cant actually find it!) to get the osgb coords of each to work out the coverage. But as (hopefully!) the OpenGuides network increases this is very wasteful!
I ask this because there probably isnt any point linking to the London OpenGuide for a location entered in Scotland for example! SO would like just link to the relevant openguide
Thanks for your help,