OpenGuides-Dev

openguides-dev@lists.openguides.org

701 discussions

After the pubmeet
by Dominic Hargreaves 03 Jul '08

03 Jul '08

Thanks to those that came to the pub - it was a fun afternoon and good to talk to people and get them involved in OpenGuides/meet new people etc. I've dumped my scribblings onto the wiki page: http://dev.openguides.org/wiki/Anniversary and implemented the Akismet plugin idea (after returning home with a bunch of spam moderations to attend to...) http://dev.openguides.org/browser/sites/oxford.openguides.org/lib/OpenGuide… Very rough but something I'd like to clean up and include into the distribution as a way of making the spam problem Someone Else's Problem. Cheers, Dominic. -- Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/ PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email)

3 6

Re: [OGDev] [OGL] london.openguides.org back up / list moves
by Dominic Hargreaves 03 Jul '08

03 Jul '08

[Cc back to openguides-dev since this has a wider scope] On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 02:15:47PM +0100, Kake L Pugh wrote: > On Tue 01 Jul 2008, Dominic Hargreaves <dom(a)earth.li> wrote: > > [...] essentially the point was made that there is still a nasty fork > > between RGL and london.openguides.org [...] I therefore decided it > > was best to get the latter back up as soon as possible, if nothing > > else so the content could be taken from there and put on RGL. > > There seems to be a bit of a misconception here, which is bothering > me. RGL was never intended as a fork of - or a replacement for - the > Open Guide to London. > > It's simply a website run by me and Bob, for the pleasure and > convenience of us and our friends, which happens to run on the > OpenGuides software. It's not any kind of democracy, and I would be > quite unhappy if anyone attempted to turn it into The Official London > Open Guide Wot Anyone Can Have A Say In. Okay. I misunderstood then. I was basing my remarks on Ivor's unhappiness with not being able to access the content he'd previously put into OGL; that is probably conflating things somewhat. > I mention this not out of pettiness, but because I think it's > important for the OpenGuides project that the OpenGuides team aren't > seen as asserting any rights or expectations over the content or > ownership of the things people choose to do with our software. Fair enough. Although we do have some duty/interest as a project in promoting certain qualities (for example, quality of data, openness, accessible/suitable for all-comers) in the guides we promote. When OGL was down, it was referring visitors to RGL, and RGL is also promoted on the project home page. Given your above comments, would it be better to remove the link from the project home page? (I'm really not asking this in an incendiary fashion, I really do want to know people's opinions). I am also concerned about the possible confusion resulting from offering people two London guides, without explaining how they differ. > Re adding OGL content to RGL - can I ask that nobody decide to be > "helpful" and start doing this, please. RGL is a separate thing to > OGL and is run and structured in a very different way. I think it would be useful, to avoid confusion, to explain a bit more about this. Maybe a page on RGL itself (apologies if this is already there and I missed it). Clearly there is a balance to be struck between independence and the ability for people to use the software how they like (which I strongly support) and providing a unified resource for people to get information about their locality in (see also my dreams about having a central portal site). We should aim to support both these goals. Dominic. -- Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/ PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email)

2 1

OpenGuides (in)efficiency
by Kake L Pugh 03 Jul '08

03 Jul '08

Summary: I think I know why OpenGuides has a habit of occasionally taking over servers. If you've experienced problems with occasional ridiculously high load averages, take a look at the Action paragraph below. Action: In the short term, I suggest that anyone who's been having trouble with OpenGuides taking over their machines should comment the per-user RSS feed links out of userstats.tt - copy it to your custom_templates directory and either delete everything between [% IF username %] and the next [% END %] statement (inclusive), or change [% IF username %] to [% IF username AND 0 %] - both will have the same effect. Details: I suspect that I have at last found out the thing that makes OpenGuides take people's servers over. It's the per-user RSS feeds, which are usually linked from e.g. http://cambridge.openguides.org/wiki/?username=Kake;action=userstats The problematic feeds are those which omit minor edits, and they're only a problem on large guides (Cambridge is fine, RGL is not). The reason for this is that they effectively select _everything_ from the database and then winnow it down. When a spider is hitting one of these feeds every second... I think you can see where this is going, and it's not pretty. The reason this has gone unnoticed for so long is that (a) nobody really uses these feeds anyway, so they only get accessed by spiders etc, and spiders aren't going to email us and say "hey, this link is very slow", and (b) these feeds are the only thing in OpenGuides that use "last n changes" as a selection criterion - Recent Changes uses "last n days", which is much more efficient. The root problem is with the _find_recent_changed_by_criteria method in Wiki::Toolkit::Store::Database, specifically the "metadata_wasnt" parameter in combination with the "limit" one. I am working on a rewrite of this method to make it more efficient, but this is going to require some thinking and hence some time. Kake

2 2

Leaving
by Earle Martin 30 Jun '08

30 Jun '08

Following a conversation that I just had on the IRC channel with Kake and Christopher Schmidt, it seems my sole remaining interest area in the project (RDF functionality) is no longer of interest to other users and developers of OpenGuides. Therefore I am withdrawing from the project. I will relinquish the domain name and website hosting to whoever wishes to take over it - please mail me offlist. I wish OpenGuides good luck in the future. -- قبائلَ صوتي – على صمتها Earle Martin | http://downlode.org/

2 1

Universal edit button
by Rev Simon Rumble 26 Jun '08

26 Jun '08

Apparently there's now a universal edit button, embedded in Wiki pages in a manner similar to RSS: http://universaleditbutton.org/Universal_Edit_Button There's a Firefox extension to enable it, but I imagine it'll end up in the browsers eventually. -- Rev Simon Rumble <simon(a)rumble.net> www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Because geeks travel too. http://engineer.openguides.org/ "A conservative is a man who believes that nothing should be done for the first time." - Alfred E Wiggam

3 7

Robot deterrence
by Kake L Pugh 25 Jun '08

25 Jun '08

There are a number of OpenGuides page types that web spiders don't really need to index, and we have code to stop them doing it, e.g. http://dev.openguides.org/changeset/573 http://dev.openguides.org/changeset/1132 However, it doesn't seem to be working. See for instance: http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?action=list_all_versions;id=Locale… which if you view the source does indeed have <meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" /> in the <head>. But from the Apache logs: 66.249.67.153 - - [25/Jun/2008:14:59:00 +0100] "GET /wiki.cgi?action=list_all_versions;id=Locale%20IG9 HTTP/1.1" 200 3151 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" Am I missing something obvious? Kake

4 8

5th anniversary meet, Sat 21 June, Oxford
by Kake L Pugh 20 Jun '08

20 Jun '08

A decision has been made! The 5th anniversary meet will be in Oxford on Saturday 21 June, starting at lunchtime and continuing into the evening until people need to head home. Dom and Socks are working on figuring out a suitable venue. Please put this date in your diaries now! You can also start inviting other people along - I think Ivor had some thoughts on this. I'll be publicising it on the RGL livejournal community. Kake

3 5

"Too many open files" error with Plucene
by Kake L Pugh 26 May '08

26 May '08

RGL just hit a problem along these lines: [Tue May 20 12:17:05 2008] [error] [client 213.165.225.132] Plucene::Store::InputStream cannot open /export/home/bob/web/vhosts/london.randomness.org.uk/indexes//_7320.fdx for reading: Too many open files at /opt/csw/share/perl/site_perl/Plucene/Store/InputStream.pm line 35. A bit of Googling found this: http://web.archive.org/web/20060517002546/http://plucene.minty.org/cgi-bin/… which suggested that the problem stems from temp files not being cleaned up. Bob suspects that this might have been caused by reindexing attempts which didn't complete (due to being manually interrupted for some reason). Noting also that File::Temp respects the TMPDIR environment variable, he tried another reindex using a specific tmp directory, and this worked. He's also done something which might make the CGIs use this tmp directory as well but he's not sure it worked. Bob will follow up to this mail to correct things I got wrong and add stuff I left out. This should probably go in TROUBLESHOOTING. Kake

3 2

Anniversary meet shortlist - vote now!
by Kake L Pugh 10 May '08

10 May '08

Hello. I've narrowed down the possibilities for the fifth anniversary meet. It will be in Oxford on a Saturday, starting lunchtime-ish or early-afternoon-ish (depending on whether one of the Oxford people can commit to being the person who will definitely be there at the beginning - I'll be travelling from London so don't want to promise to be there at a specific time unless that time is like 3pm or so) and ending evening-ish, on one of the following dates: Saturday 21 June Saturday 28 June Saturday 5 July Please let me know preferences offlist, and I'll announce the chosen date next week. I'll leave it to the Oxford people to choose the venue. I'll be arriving by either coach or train, whichever works out best for the venue. Kake

1 0

Separating module install from guide install
by Kake L Pugh 01 May '08

01 May '08

Hello. As it has now become my itch, I've started working on separating out installation of the OpenGuides modules from setup of an Open Guide. I'm basing it on the way that CGI::Wiki::Kwiki works[0]. If you have a better way to do it, and either: a) your way is less hassle (for me) than my way, or b) you are willing to do the work your way, and plan to do so within the next few months, then please let me know. Otherwise I'll carry on with this. For the time being, I won't be committing this to OpenGuides svn trunk. I can commit it in a branch if someone would like to send me absolutely idiot-proof instructions for doing so. Kake [0] CGI::Wiki::Kwiki can be found on search.cpan.org - it's almost certainly quicker for you to go and have a look at it yourself than for me to try to summarise how it works.

3 6

← Newer
1
...
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
...
71
Older →

Jump to page:

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

2007

2006

2005

2004

2003

OpenGuides-Dev