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[OpenGuides-Dev] OpenGuides user interface problems?
by Kate L Pugh 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

Hi Pete, I understand you had some trouble with the OpenGuides user interface the other week. Could you let us know what the problem was so we can fix it? Thanks! Kake

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Re: Fw: [OpenGuides-Dev] Supersearch
by Kate L Pugh 08 Sep '03

08 Sep '03

On Sat 06 Sep 2003, Ivor Williams <ivor.williams(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Not sure if this reached you or whether the list is up... Did you send a mail to the list that didn't make it through? Can you mail Tantrix if so? >> OK, Have had a brief look - SuperSearch.pm is not checked into CVS ?! >> but I found it in the site-perl directory tree. Whoops, OK, it's in CVS now. Thanks. >> I'm having a look at the code. It looks good, and much along the >> lines I was thinking. What is still broken, that you'd like me to >> look at? Off the top of my head, the " " and [ ] searches don't seem to work - if you'd like to do some work then those might be useful. >> Have you got a version of OG up which includes all the changes so far? I've released 0.24 to CPAN now. The Vegan Oxford guide is running on it, and I think hex plans to upgrade London today. Kake

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Supersearch
by Kate L Pugh 06 Sep '03

06 Sep '03

I'm *sure* I already sent this, but I can't find it in my outbox. Ivor, I have ripped out the supersearch.cgi stuff into a module OpenGuides::SuperSearch, and added tests. Can you take a look at it ASAP as I don't like the search on london.openguides being broken, so I'd like to do a new release in the next few days. Kake

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Wiki zen garden
by Kate L Pugh 04 Sep '03

04 Sep '03

[cced to OpenGuides and CGI::Wiki dev lists - Matt, please feel free to join either or both of these. URLs at bottom of mail.] Hi Matt, Paul Mison pointed me at your post about wikis: http://a.wholelottanothing.org/archives.blah/007391 Sounds like you might be interested in some stuff I've been writing. CGI::Wiki is a perl distribution (available on CPAN) that provides a backend for wikis and wiki-like applications. Despite the name, it does no CGI whatsoever - it just stores, indexes and retrieves content and metadata. >From the start of my work on CGI::Wiki I wanted to make it generic enough to be used in as wide a variety of situations as possible. There's a choice of backends (currently MySQL, Postgres and SQLite, but people have expressed interest in writing a flat-file backend too), and since it's a toolkit - providing methods - rather than an actual application, you can use it wherever you like. OpenGuides (also available on CPAN) is built on top of CGI::Wiki. It's a complete web application providing a management system for a collaboratively-written city guide. The London install is currently the largest - see http://openguides.org/london/ Other installs are linked from http://openguides.org/ OpenGuides uses CSS and the Template Toolkit and our aim has always been to produce something completely suited to its purpose, rather than shoehorning our content into something that looks and smells like every other wiki site out there. It does RDF too, so it's all semantic and stuff. Both CGI::Wiki and OpenGuides are in active development. They're certainly not what I would call mature yet, but they're definitely usable. Here are the links for the dev lists: http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cgi-wiki-dev http://realprogrammers.com/mm/listinfo/openguides-dev And the code is on CPAN: http://search.cpan.org/author/KAKE/ Kake

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[OpenGuides-Dev] CGI::Wiki development mailing list
by Kate L Pugh 02 Sep '03

02 Sep '03

Anyone interested in the development of CGI::Wiki, the underlying distribution that OpenGuides is built on, can subscribe to its mailing list at http://www.earth.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cgi-wiki-dev Kake

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Administrivia: list problems
by Earle Martin 02 Sep '03

02 Sep '03

Hello all, We had a problem with Mailman (apparently the qrunner was off, whatever that means - thanks to Tantrix for fixing it) that meant posts to the lists weren't getting through for approximately the last month. This should now be resolved (presuming this one shows up); sorry about that. - Earle -- # Earle Martin http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?EarleMartin $a="f695a9a2176a7dd1618af6649896ee10f05ea986de18af6277e9a1d8ef4696644569a1d". "8ef46961ae1e64277e9896eea7d92ea8003e9a1d8ef4696f6950";$b="8ALB6AIA4.BA2";$c= join"",unpack"C*",$b;$c=~s/7/2/g;@b=split"",$c;foreach$d(@b){$e=hex(substr($a ,$f,$d));while(length($e)<8){substr($e,0,0)=0;}print pack"b8",$e;$f+=$d;}

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[OpenGuides-Dev] test
by kake＠earth.li 02 Sep '03

02 Sep '03

Apologies for the inconvenience if this does get through. Testing from a machine where I can watch the exim logs! Kake

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[OpenGuides-Dev] bug in search
by Bob Walker 01 Sep '03

01 Sep '03

if you search from http://openguides.org/london/supersearch.cgi you get a page not found -- Bob Walker http://www.randomness.org.uk/ Alan Moore knows the score

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Copyright
by Earle Martin 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

Ivor wrote (originally on the London list[0], but I feel this is more applicable on the dev list): > I feel we need some kind of statement on the London site of the copyright > status. [E.g "]All material on the site http://openguides.org/london is > copyright OpenGuides.["] I'm sorry to say I don't like this approach at all. I don't want to impose this kind of copyright on anyone - who enjoys writing material only for it to instantly become someone else's property? Also, since the legal status of "OpenGuides" is shadowy at best, I don't think that would make a very good move. On the other hand, I *do* want a compulsory licence for material on the site. My current favourite is the GNU Free Documentation Licence[1], as used by Wikipedia[2], which states: The purpose of this License is to make a manual, textbook, or other functional and useful document "free" in the sense of freedom... Actually, this isn't just my current favourite; it's been my favourite for over a year[3]. I'm also interested by the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial license[4], because I quite like the idea of forbidding for-profit redistributions, but that focuses more on free-as-in-beer than free-as-in-speech. It's my opinion that the Wikipedia usage of the GNU FDL is the most appropriate thing I've seen to date. > I wonder if we should consider a copyright statement on the site, and a > ? message on each page (via the template of course). There should without question be a link to the license in each page's footer, and a message on the editing template as well. I reproduce here the message you see when editing a Wikipedia page. Please note that all contributions to Wikipedia are considered to be released under the GNU Free Documentation License (see Wikipedia:Copyrights for details). If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here. You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION! If we decide on a licensing scheme, then it won't be troublesome to incorporate it into the distribution. However, I am not at present sure whether the matter of licensing should be decided centrally - namely, by us, and imposed as a condition of being part of the OpenGuides network - or on a per-site basis by each site's staff. Thoughts? Applying a licensing scheme to the existing sites - particularly London - will be a little more problematic. For each, any and all copyrighted material must be firstly located, and then either excised, have permission gained from the copyright owners for usage of it or left in place if it is felt that it falls under "fair usage". We will also have to provide the option for authors of material on the site to withdraw what they have written if they are not willing for it to fall under the licensing scheme. For this, I suggest announcing a "grace period" of one month, after which time the license will apply to all pages. On the topic of copyrighted material, for things such as photographs, which tend to be embedded in pages but continue to exist as someone else's property - for example, the photograph on the London site's "Calthorpe Arms" page - we may have to modify the license to specify an exception for specially marked materials belonging to other persons. [0] http://openguides.org/mail/openguides-london/2003-August/000013.html [1] http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html [2] http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights [3] http://shorl.com/gogonaromysi - link to Google archive of my Grubstreet list post on May 21 2002. (Kake, will this archive ever come back?) [4] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/1.0/ -- # Earle Martin http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?EarleMartin $a="f695a9a2176a7dd1618af6649896ee10f05ea986de18af6277e9a1d8ef4696644569a1d". "8ef46961ae1e64277e9896eea7d92ea8003e9a1d8ef4696f6950";$b="8ALB6AIA4.BA2";$c= join"",unpack"C*",$b;$c=~s/7/2/g;@b=split"",$c;foreach$d(@b){$e=hex(substr($a ,$f,$d));while(length($e)<8){substr($e,0,0)=0;}print pack"b8",$e;$f+=$d;}

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Autocreation and web robots
by Earle Martin 03 Aug '03

03 Aug '03

If you look at the RecentChanges for OG London, you'll see it's filled with dozens of category and locale autocreations. Because I don't think anyone would be bored enough to do such a thing, I reckon it's a web robot of some kind that's followed lots of links to nonexistent categories and consequently brought them into existence. I think this exposes a vulnerability in the mechanism; numerous of the new categories were erroneous.[0] I propose that autocreation be made a user choice; namely, something like, The category you selected does not exist, but we can create it for you if you would like. [Create Category] with "Create Category" being a form submit button. [0] Actually, it was quite useful as it exposed lots of pages that needed to be tidied, but I'm not sure that would rate as a "feature"! -- # Earle Martin http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?EarleMartin $a="f695a9a2176a7dd1618af6649896ee10f05ea986de18af6277e9a1d8ef4696644569a1d". "8ef46961ae1e64277e9896eea7d92ea8003e9a1d8ef4696f6950";$b="8ALB6AIA4.BA2";$c= join"",unpack"C*",$b;$c=~s/7/2/g;@b=split"",$c;foreach$d(@b){$e=hex(substr($a ,$f,$d));while(length($e)<8){substr($e,0,0)=0;}print pack"b8",$e;$f+=$d;}

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