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[OpenGuides-Dev] Fwd: Wikitravel and OpenGuides
by Earle Martin 04 Dec '03

04 Dec '03

I sent this on before but it got lost in the list outage. Evan is currently on #openguides if anyone wants to stop by and talk. ----- Forwarded message from evan(a)wikitravel.org ----- Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:08:06 -0800 From: evan(a)wikitravel.org To: contact(a)openguides.org Cc: maj(a)wikitravel.org Subject: Wikitravel and OpenGuides Hey, folks. My name is Evan Prodromou, and I'm one of the two founders of Wikitravel. http://www.wikitravel.org/ Wikitravel is a project to create a free (copyleft), complete, up-to-date and reliable world wide travel guide. It's a Wiki, like OpenGuides, so everything is edited and created and illustrated and such by users just drifting in off the Internet. A friend pointed me to the OpenGuides site, and I have to say I like it. I think there's some overlap in what we're covering, but I'm not sure how much. You don't seem as similar as, say, CapitanCook. Anyways, I wanted to say "hi". I don't know crappo about Oxford or Birmingham, so I don't think I have a lot to contribute, but I just figured I'd send a ping. Good luck, ~ESP ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Earle Martin hex on irc.perl.org http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] New arrivals
by Earle Martin 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

I notice a couple of people have subscribed to the list in the last day or so. Hello, and welcome; would you like to introduce yourselves briefly? Cheers, Earle. -- Earle Martin hex on irc.perl.org http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] [MLP] Categorising categories
by Kate L Pugh 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

(MLP stands for "mindless link propagation", stolen from kuro5hin. I'm going to put this in the subject line for posts where I'm just passing out URLs that I want you lot to read and consider in the context of possibilities for the OpenGuides software.) Another one from Alex (yaxu): http://www.uie.com/Articles/strategies_categories.htm An examination of how different ways of organising categorised content can improve the usability of a site containing a large quantity of information. Kake

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Re: [OpenGuides-London] Wiki etiquette link
by Earle Martin 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 02:53:13PM +0000, Bob Walker wrote: > while were talking about addign stuff could we add an option ot the > settings to not have any of the help stuff since we already have the > option to not have the text formatting stuff. This is done and in CVS. See http://un.earth.li/~earle/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi?Example_Node for an example. -- Earle Martin hex on irc.perl.org http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] OpenGuides global directory?
by Ivor Williams 29 Nov '03

29 Nov '03

Folks, Now that we have OpenGuides sprouting up across the globe, it would be nice to have a list of all the sites. This will become increasingly important in several scenarios: 1. I want to set up a new guide to Fooville. Is anyone already doing it? 2. I'm a roving traveller with friends in thousands of places, all hooked up to the net. I've just stumbled on OpenGuides and I want to entice my friends to be contributors. 3. I'm running a global business with franchises across the globe. I have read favourable reports on london.openguides.org of my outlets there. I want to see if other guides exist for the other cities working franchises. etc. etc. What I have in mind is something on the lines of PAUSE/CPAN. Filling in a web form with details of a new proposed site will post to a mailing list. If the site is accepted, it is added to the OpenGuides global directory, The list of guides (by approval status) is available to all in a picklist by country (and state if appropriate). Clearly, registering your guide and getting it approved is optional, due to the open source nature of the software. But, launching a new guide might possibly be a multi-stage process. 1. Search the list to see if a guide already exists (approved or unapproved) 2. Work out your hosting arrangements. Some people already hosting guides are willing to host additional guides for new cities. 3. Set up an empty shell of a guide (install the software first if you are hosting it yourself). 4. Register the guide. 5. Publicise it and recruit some core contributors. 6. Write up lots of pages! Get your friends to do the same. 7. When you are happy that the site is big enough to launch, log on to the directory and update its status to launched. Also hanging off this guide entry (once approved) is a directory which someone with the guide's password can ftp or upload to, containing customisations: stylesheets, templates, etc. that are in use at the site, allowing people maintaining other guides to benefit from any neat graphical design, gismos, styles, etc. Ivor.

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Seen in the error log
by Earle Martin 28 Nov '03

28 Nov '03

[Thu Nov 27 23:15:03 2003] index.cgi: Search::InvertedIndex::remove_index_from_group() - Corrupted database. Unable to find 'ged_000000000000_c_000000000523' record [Thu Nov 27 23:15:03 2003] index.cgi: at /home/earle/openguides.org/lib/CGI/Wiki/Search/SII.pm line 204 This is for the London site. Should I be worried? -- Earle Martin hex on irc.perl.org http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] New list member
by Troy Davis 28 Nov '03

28 Nov '03

Hello, I'm new to the list, I learned about OpenGuides via the perl.com article published recently. I'm a web designer and perl coder in Cincinnati, Ohio. The reason that I'm interested in OpenGuides is a website that I currently manage which promotes downtown Cincinnati as a place to live, work and play: http://gototown.com I'm not sure if OpenGuides is something I can integrate into this website or not. And although I personally like wiki sites, I doubt that my client would allow anyone outside of their organization to publish info to the site without administrator review and approval. So I guess that's my research task: Looking into whether there is an approval mechanism already implemented in OG. I've also noticed that the OG sites listed as examples looking remarkably similar, so I'm hoping to find out how much the template system can be modified. I've already noticed that OG requires PostgreSQL, whereas I've used MySQL in my work so far. More to research... Also, I'm not sure whether any work I've done can be of benefit to OG or not. I certainly haven't tried to distribute that code to anyone else, so it would require some refactoring and repackaging, if there's unimplemented but desirable features in the first place. I'd also need to get my client's approval to open source some of their code if it's desired. I'm intending to get OG installed on a test machine soon so that I can become more aware of its architecture and features, and I hope to lurk here for a little while until I get my bearings. I've got a few other tasks to attend to before I can attempt to install OG, so I'll leave you with wishes for a happy Thanksgiving to those of you who celebrate the holiday, and a good day/evening to those of you who don't. Cheers, Troy

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[OpenGuides-Dev] OpenGuides visitor stats update
by Earle Martin 23 Nov '03

23 Nov '03

>From http://openguides.org/stats/ : month: reqs: pages: --------: -----: -----: May 2003: 30: 15: + Jun 2003: 9935: 664: +++++++ Jul 2003: 36317: 1527: ++++++++++++++++ Aug 2003: 16589: 1664: +++++++++++++++++ Sep 2003: 12387: 1216: +++++++++++++ Oct 2003: 23811: 2538: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Nov 2003: 25036: 3900: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Of course, this is only for the stuff hosted on openguides.org itself. -- Earle Martin hex on irc.perl.org http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] CSS zen garden
by Kate L Pugh 19 Nov '03

19 Nov '03

62 designs all using the same html: http://www.csszengarden.com/ This link got sent round the internal list at work today. It would be great to have this much flexibility in the OpenGuides templates, and to have some talented designers working on the sites. I'd particularly like a nice style for the Reading OpenGuide. I worry about people forking the templates, since they *do* contain functionality. Even if we fix a bug in the distributed templates, sites using custom templates will still be buggy. I've seen this happen on the London site. Kake

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Fw: SuperSearch documentation, generic OG site
by Ivor Williams 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

This is an "old" post from the time when the lists were broken. Some points are still relevant though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivor Williams" <ivor.williams(a)tiscali.co.uk> To: <openguides-dev(a)openguides.org> Sent: 08 November 2003 11:12 Subject: SuperSearch documentation, generic OG site > Folks, > > I'm glad that OG 0.28 is live in London and a few places, as it has > given me a chance to update the documentation on the new search > syntax with real examples :). Please give me feedback on this new > syntax. > > I also notice that the "Instructions" link on the supersearch page always > links back to the London guide. Is this a good thing? At least we can > guarantee that the examples will work ;). > > An alternative would be to have a page on the generic openguides.org > site... which leads me on to how we can keep pages on here up to date. Could > we make this a wiki? Perhaps a wiki with restricted access to edit. CGI::Wiki::Simple? > > Also, we could do with a repository for templates, style sheets, plugins, etc. so > that OG sites can download, upload and share them. > > My thoughts for the day. > > By the way, I've also changed the NOT search to use '-' instead of '!' acting on > feedback from a couple of people at Thursday's London.pm. This will be in 0.29, > and I will add it to the search instructions when 0.29 is live. > > In the mean time, I have been keeping the SuperSearch.pm POD in line with the > syntax changes. > > Ivor.

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