What can we do for Super Happy Google Powers?
Better titles certainly made a difference for London's ranking. Better URLs would, too - and I've just noticed this little trick they're using over at BITE:
http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/15/155/Montagu_Pyke/Charing_Cross_Roa...
Strip off the last bit of the URL and you'll see the link still works, so it's obviously just extra search-engine-enticement, akin to what they do at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Death-Life-Great-American-Cities/dp/067974195X/
Ideas anyone?
This one time, at band camp, Earle Martin wrote:
What can we do for Super Happy Google Powers?
Better titles certainly made a difference for London's ranking. Better URLs would, too - and I've just noticed this little trick they're using over at BITE:
http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/15/155/Montagu_Pyke/Charing_Cross_Roa...
Strip off the last bit of the URL and you'll see the link still works, so it's obviously just extra search-engine-enticement, akin to what they do at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Death-Life-Great-American-Cities/dp/067974195X/
Indeed, I've been using this technique for years. Type "apartment vallandry" into Google and you'll find out all about a bad experience I had renting an apartment in the French Alps. Note the URL.
Links from blogs help a lot, especially blogs that are syndicated on planets. Encouraging people to say things like "Meet me at the <a href="http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Head_Of_Steam_Euston,_NW1_1DN">Head of Steam</a>" in blog posts makes the LOG entry for the term "Head of Steam" slightly more authoritative.
I note that LOG already has a PageRank of 6, which is pretty damn good! (http://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php)
It's suspected that Google prefers URLs that don't have question marks in them. Some judicious URL rewriting can do away with it.
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
Links from blogs help a lot, especially blogs that are syndicated on planets. Encouraging people to say things like "Meet me at the <a href="http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Head_Of_Steam_Euston,_NW1_1DN">Head of Steam</a>" in blog posts makes the LOG entry for the term "Head of Steam" slightly more authoritative.
shame its finally changed its name to the doric arch.
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 11:11:29PM +0000, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
Links from blogs help a lot, especially blogs that are syndicated on planets. Encouraging people to say things like "Meet me at the <a href="http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Head_Of_Steam_Euston,_NW1_1DN">Head of Steam</a>" in blog posts makes the LOG entry for the term "Head of Steam" slightly more authoritative.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to implement a trackback feature in OpenGuides? I think I RT'd an enhancement ticket about this, but feel free to add it if I didn't, since I don't have my login details handy at the moment.
Dave
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 11:39:50PM +0000, Dave Page wrote:
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 11:11:29PM +0000, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
Links from blogs help a lot, especially blogs that are syndicated on planets. Encouraging people to say things like "Meet me at the <a href="http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Head_Of_Steam_Euston,_NW1_1DN">Head of Steam</a>" in blog posts makes the LOG entry for the term "Head of Steam" slightly more authoritative.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to implement a trackback feature in OpenGuides? I think I RT'd an enhancement ticket about this, but feel free to add it if I didn't, since I don't have my login details handy at the moment.
Probably not. Trackback has been made totally useless because all it is used for now is spam.
Regards,
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 11:39:50PM +0000, Dave Page wrote:
Perhaps it would be a good idea to implement a trackback feature in OpenGuides? I think I RT'd an enhancement ticket about this, but feel free to add it if I didn't, since I don't have my login details handy at the moment.
Just to clarify, what exactly is a "trackback"? I'm not entirely clear what the difference between a "trackback" and a "link" is.
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 11:33:11AM +0000, David Cantrell wrote:
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 11:39:50PM +0000, Dave Page wrote:
Perhaps it would be a good idea to implement a trackback feature in OpenGuides? I think I RT'd an enhancement ticket about this, but feel free to add it if I didn't, since I don't have my login details handy at the moment.
Just to clarify, what exactly is a "trackback"? I'm not entirely clear what the difference between a "trackback" and a "link" is.
It's like a link, only automatic. So J Random Blogger links to Node X in his blog entry, and his blog software does some magic, and the OpenGuide is informed that there's a link to Node X from Entry Y. It's often used for the "last 5 pages linking to this page" type stuff, and is a useful way (modulo spam) of improving linkiness.
Dave
Hi folks,
Agreed that some URL writing amazon style would be worthwhile, ditto inward linking from other sites with high page-rank. Some other suggestions from me would be:
1. Page order matters. In the standard templates the actual page content doesn't start until halfway through the source code. The rest of the stuff above that is just the standard navigation that appears on the right in many Guides, such as Recent Changes. This ordering should ideally be swapped in the templates, with page content first, following by any generic stuff. Obviously the actual positioning of the elements visually can be done with CSS. At the moment we have the worst of both worlds(*): content positioned on the left, but actually further down in the code than the stuff that's positioned on the right. * actually London has this sorted - credit where credits due ;)
2. Titles Attributes on Links. Especially for things like Categories and Locales. This should be a 1minute hack, and can't do any harm.
3. Inter-guide Linking. Not even anything fancy like wiki-links across guides, but maybe even just links in footers to other guides nearby. We all have good pagerank, so lets use it.
4. Working the Metatags even further. At the moment the contents of our (as in the OGMK) description tags is pretty sparse, and wholly dependent on the contents of the "Description of this node" field. Pumping the first 150 chars of the article content into the description metatag after whatever the "description of this node" field contains, would give search engines more to go on.
5. More site-wide navigation. I like what OGL has done with the category-style navigation on the Node List pages. Something like this on every page would be great from a SEO and usability perspective.
OK, hope these are some help.
Cheers,
Tom.
On 09/01/07, Dave Page grimoire@sparky.ox.compsoc.net wrote:
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 11:33:11AM +0000, David Cantrell wrote:
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 11:39:50PM +0000, Dave Page wrote:
Perhaps it would be a good idea to implement a trackback feature in OpenGuides? I think I RT'd an enhancement ticket about this, but feel free to add it if I didn't, since I don't have my login details handy at the moment.
Just to clarify, what exactly is a "trackback"? I'm not entirely clear what the difference between a "trackback" and a "link" is.
It's like a link, only automatic. So J Random Blogger links to Node X in his blog entry, and his blog software does some magic, and the OpenGuide is informed that there's a link to Node X from Entry Y. It's often used for the "last 5 pages linking to this page" type stuff, and is a useful way (modulo spam) of improving linkiness.
Dave
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On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Earle Martin wrote:
What can we do for Super Happy Google Powers?
Ideas anyone?
http://blog.outer-court.com/archive/2007-01-07-n13.html
so basically content.
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