OpenGuides-Dev November 2004

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23 discussions

[OpenGuides-Dev] OG performance
by Paul Makepeace 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

Hi, I don't follow OG development but as host operator a few things are coming up. The machine's load is gradually climbing over time and some of that is OG. Despite a relatively low hit rate on OG it is consuming quite a bit of resource. If OG started taking off it would take the machine down. First up: index.cgi requires 0.35s to perform a `perl -c` syntax check. Any thoughts on putting OG on a mod_perl server? I have mod_perl running here of course and we'd need to coordinate some apache.conf stuff. Second: the supersearch.cgi gulps down CPU, often for seconds at a time. It is a frequent resident of `top` output. This isn't really acceptable. I'm going to request this feature be turned off unless an effective optimisation plan or some other way to reduce its impact here is constructed pretty soon. Sorry about this but it's encroaching on others. Third: I wonder if there's some way to instruct robots not to spider parts of your wiki. This ought to speak for itself: $ grep crawl /var/log/apache/london.openguides.org-access.log | grep 'action=edit' | wc -l 8242 $ Finally: I posted about a DoS and was wondering what the status of a solution was. http://openguides.org/mail/openguides-dev/2004-October/000542.html Cheers, Paul (any overbearing tone unintentional ;-) -- Paul Makepeace .............................. http://paulm.com/inchoate/ "If my elbow was straight, then I'll show oyu mine!" -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] RDF for Locales and Categories
by Chris Prather 30 Nov '04

30 Nov '04

So I've been pondering this for a few days, and I don't (yet) have a good solution. But I have an itch growing, and I need to dump it here before I totally forget it. Currently the RDF view of a page doesn't give the current Categories or Locales. I'd like to include these as some kind of a link to the Category or Locale page ... I'm thinking something like an rdf:seeAlso, but that really isn't descriptive enough. This is where I got stuck working on this idea, I couldn't find a decent RDF vocabulary to give this idea. The closest is spacenamespace's space:contains ... but that's the inverse of what I want. Having said that, isn't there a way to invert the process and get all the nodes in a Category or Locale via the RDF? I know zool asked about something like that at one point, and it could possibly have made it into the book. The ultimate purpose of all of this is I'd like to create a little bot to do OpenGuides searches. Something like mudlondon, though not nearly as featureful. I just want something that will perform locative searches for me when I need a resturant to eat lunch at. -Chris

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Lat/Long changes in releases?
by Rev Simon Rumble 30 Nov '04

30 Nov '04

Don't want to hassle but the Lat/Long stuff is very exciting. Any idea when we'll Kake's wonderfulness in the release? (specifically, the Debian packages for me) Is there anything outstanding that needs doing that a mere mortal could do? (Template adjustments, documentation and the like.) -- Rev Simon Rumble <simon(a)rumble.net> www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Because nerds travel too. http://engineer.openguides.org/ "The only sensible way to estimate the stability of a Windows server is to power it down and try it out as a step ladder." - Robert Crawford

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[OpenGuides-Dev] yet another similar project
by James Green 29 Nov '04

29 Nov '04

Hi, People interested in projects similar to OpenGuides might be interested to see http://wiki.ournottingham.net/, whose creator apparently felt that http://nottingham.openguides.org/ didn't quite fulfill Nottingham's collaborative-city-guide needs[1]. It uses MediaWiki, which is cool in some ways (discussion tabs!) but lacks features I for one consider important in OpenGuides (structured metadata, x-y coordinates) and apparently the content it released under the GFDL, though this information is hard to find without a spot of digging. While we're on the subject, does anyone know if the GFDL and CC by-sa 2.0 licence are "compatible" in either direction? That is to say, can content from either of these guides be easily included in the other? My rough understanding of the licences suggests not, but IANAL. Cheers, James [1] Grumble. This "providing content" lark sure is hard. -- jkg((-.+)?@(|the\.)earth.li|@(jimbo|wonky)\.org\.uk|03u@cs\.nott\.ac\.uk) Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. -- Mark Twain

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Why OpenGuides?
by Kake L Pugh 26 Nov '04

26 Nov '04

I often have trouble explaining to people why the Open Guide to London is better than other London guide sites. So I set up this page so you can all help me come up with articulate reasons. Please braindump. http://openguides.org/dev/?node=Why+OpenGuides Kake

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[OpenGuides-Dev] OpenGuides goes global
by Kake L Pugh 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

22:59 <Kake> OI!!!! 22:59 <Kake> Everyone! 22:59 <Kake> I did it! 23:00 <Kake> OpenGuides location stuff now works worldwide. 23:00 <Kake> http://the.earth.li/~kake/cgi-bin/openguides/vegan-oxford.cgi is running entirely on UTM. CGI::Wiki::Plugin::Locator::UK isn't even installed on the machine any more. 23:00 <Kake> ...and you've all gone to bed so I have to be excited on my own. Backwards compatibility is safe. The kakemirror on london.openguides.org is running on exactly the same code and on the live London data. By the way, what happened to the Northern Ireland OpenGuide? Kake

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Grand Unified Hackfest
by Earle Martin 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

For some time there have been mumblings and/or rumblings of the possibility of lots of people hacking together (hmm, lopht) on CGI::Wiki and OpenGuides in the same place. I offered to host, and it's got to the point where I can make good on that. When's good for you? E. -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.oclc.org/net/earlemartin/

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[OpenGuides-Dev] [upload@pause.perl.org: CPAN Upload: D/DO/DOM/OpenGuides-0.44.tar.gz]
by Dominic Hargreaves 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

Changelog: 0.44 17 November 2004 Remove all traces of display_categories, which was obsoleted but not completely removed before. Improved the efficiency of the search. Fixed a couple of minor bugs in the search - note that node.tt and supersearch.tt have changed. Change the default indexer for new installs to Plucene. Only run certain search-related tests if Plucene is installed. Debian packages to follow. Cheers, ----- Forwarded message from PAUSE <upload(a)pause.perl.org> ----- Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:23:13 +0100 Subject: CPAN Upload: D/DO/DOM/OpenGuides-0.44.tar.gz Reply-To: cpan-testers(a)perl.org To: "Dominic Hargreaves" <dom(a)earth.li> From: PAUSE <upload(a)pause.perl.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 The URL http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/computing/code/openguides/OpenGuides-0.44.tar… has entered CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/D/DO/DOM/OpenGuides-0.44.tar.gz size: 70303 bytes md5: bb7cd00feaa1d42b50dcdcb57c7e431f No action is required on your part Request entered by: DOM (Dominic Hargreaves) Request entered on: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:21:07 GMT Request completed: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:23:13 GMT Thanks, -- paused, v460 ----- End forwarded message ----- --

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[OpenGuides-Dev] Feature to add to the to-do list
by Joe 13 Nov '04

13 Nov '04

Hi, Since some shops specialise in one thing, but 'also' do another, such as HMV stocking a small amount of Books as well as CD's. A way to help categorise between shops that specialise in certain things, and shops that have them as an afterthought could go as follows. I'm using the 'Category Bookshops' from the Nottingham guide as an example. (http://nottingham.openguides.org/?action=index;index_type=category;index_va…) Waterstone's would appear top, as on the edit page 'Bookshops' was entered as a 'Primary Category' HMV would appear below all the ones that had 'Bookshops' in the primary category box. For HMV, 'Bookshops' would be entered in the 'Secondary Category' textbox. The page would layout as follows: -------------------- Node List - Category Bookshops Page45 WHSmith, Lister Gate WHSmith, Nottingham Station WHSmith, Victoria Centre Waterstone's, Bridlesmith Gate Waterstone's, Wheeler Gate Also see: FOPP HMV, Lister Gate HMV, Victoria Centre Virgin Megastore -------------------- -- Joe Mills

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[OpenGuides-Dev] supersearch & limiting
by Jody Belka 13 Nov '04

13 Nov '04

<@knewt> ping <@Kake> Yes? <@knewt> you know we were talking about limiting use of supersearch? <@knewt> well, there's an interesting article on perl.com right now about flood control, and it's linked to a module on cpan, Algorithm::FloodControl - might be worth looking at <@Kake> Best send that to the list. So i have. Article at http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/11/11/floodcontrol.html Module at http://search.cpan.org/dist/Algorithm-FloodControl -- Jody Belka knew (at) pimb (dot) org

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