[OGDev] categories, locales and tags

Tom Heath tom.heath at gmail.com
Fri Mar 30 14:39:18 BST 2007


Thanks Chris, for jumping in and clarifying, on both counts. Apologies
Kake and others for my kinda cryptic example.

So, the question is, "is anyone actually consuming tag data described
using this ontology, and if so where can I see it in action?" Have I
got that right?

The simple answer is no, not really. Mainly because tagging tends to
be seen as a Web2.0 thing, and ontologies as a Semantic Web thing.
Consequently Web2.0 people don't think of exposing tag data in RDF
(using this or any other ontology), hence things like rel-tag, and
Semantic Web people don't have much tagging data in their own apps
that they can readily expose in RDF. Revyu is one exception (although
we only produce right now, not consume). This is starting to change,
with things like Flickr machine tags being a big step along the path
(I gather, but haven't explored them much), but still right now the
short answer is 'no'.

However, as with many things where the OpenGuides are ahead of the
curve, a 'no' answer is not a reason to not do it ;) The biggest
effort that's looking into these issues of tag sharing across services
(with a view to making it easier to actually do something meaningful
and useful with the data) is TagCommons <http://tagcommons.org/>,
which will hopefully yield more movement in this general direction.
RDF-based solutions have some decent traction in this group.

So, assuming other people are interested and prepared to commit the
programming effort, I'd say lets just do it, and work out the
consuming applications later. I'm sure others will follow the same
path in due course.

What dya reckon?

Cheers,

Tom.

On 30/03/07, Christopher Schmidt <crschmidt at crschmidt.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:45:42PM +0100, Kake L Pugh wrote:
> > On Thu 29 Mar 2007, Tom Heath <tom.heath at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> ex:obj tags:tag [ tags:associatedTag tag:great , tag:interesting ] .
> >
> > On Thu 29 Mar 2007, Kake L Pugh <kake at earth.li> wrote:
> > > The above line is an example of my Dummy-like status in this respect -
> > > I have no idea what language that is or how it should be used.  Help?
> >
> > crschmidt explained on IRC that this is "turtle", a shorthand for RDF.
> >
> > So my next question is - is there anywhere that's using this stuff?
> > As a consumer, I mean.  Tom's link had some examples of people
> > _producing_ it, but is there anywhere I can go and look to see it in action?
>
> After talking to Kake on IRC, I realized here she didn't mean 'turtle',
> but instead the tags ontology described in the previously mentioned
> links.
>
> Regards,
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